Northwest Dive Club

Therein lies the strength of DIR...good buddy skills are more prevalent. There's never been a question there in my mind. Actually its a bit different than that. There's a commonality of training which is not found in other agencies. With pretty much all the other tech/cave agencies quality comes do...

There seem to be some misconceptions above with regard to gas selection (ala air is for tires and narcosis issues). So to elaborate on each gas and my understanding of GUE's take on it... I'm not going to discuss why something is not DIR though. Just the standard gases and why they are the way they ...

If I'm not diving with my main buddies my way and your way is not standardized in that particular buddy pairing however I would have redundant air in that siituation and you wouldn't. You may choose to simply never dive with anyone who doesn't dive as you do so your system still works. So does mine...

No offense but using stories like Dandy Don as a reason not to use a pony or for any other reason is really a strawman argument. Even when I backmounted a pony I still had a SPG that was where I could see it and I checked it from time to time. Getting that narced on air at 120 fsw is because it was...

It makes sense to me for a DIR diver not to sling a pony when diving singles within a DIR group. It doesn't make logical common sense to me for that person to be so adament about another group of single divers not slinging ponies if that is there standard approach. I recommend people sling ponys un...

Logic is getting contorted when you say don't dive with a pony bottle. Your buddy is your pony bottle...unless you are diving doubles then your buddy and your doubles are your redundancy. Don't dive with a pony bottle but if you do sling it....don't do something but if you do I have a belief system...

Why address recreational diving as a "belief system" rather than just dealing with each issue that comes up with objectivity?. I think this is just your outside perspective. Most of the DIR divers I know put ALOT (sometimes to excess) thought it what they are doing and/or why. Why the nee...

gcbryan wrote: Or perhaps, self-reliant brains and since experience doesn't count for much in a benign environment neither would redundant benign experience.

:rr:

Dmitchell wrote:It looks like the split between ignorable is:
Zen Diver #77 joined 20/6/06 cannot be ignored
Jeff Kruse #78 joined 21/6/06 can be ignored.

Waaay too much time on my hands.....

Dave

I think this has way more to do with Jeff and Valerie than their user accounts...

Except for a redundant air supply and a BUNCH of experience it seems that the solo diver carries the same gear that the buddy team carries. 1) no redundant brains while solo 2) experience doesn't count for much if its in a benign environment. Eventually you may be tasked with something you have nev...

Unfortunately, there's usually very little real evidence as to what, exactly, caused a diver to die. It usually boils down to speculation ... which makes it easy to fit it into just about anybody's belief system. Yeah there's generally less speculation when their buddy can describe the incident. Ev...

Ack those video puppets are horrid!

Grateful Diver wrote: I do think, however, that people are quick to jump on diver deaths to find ways to rationalize their own belief systems.

Maybe consider the deaths as actually evidence that those beliefs are well founded. Ya know Ocram's Razor?

On the other hand, I think these critters are smarter than some folks give 'em credit for. One of the first things I noticed when I started scootering is that once you get outside the areas where most people dive, you see a lot more octopus dens. I think they just got tired of all the lights and no...

My initial thought on the proposal was that octopus generate more revenue via non-consumptive uses than through consumptive uses. However you are right that portions of WDFW view their role as to promote hunting and fishing opportunties. And portions view their role as stewards of the public resourc...

This is because of your limited universe. All the people you would personally feel comfortable with are DIR and of course by definition they don't solo dive. Actually nope, the very few people I know who I feel ok diving solo are not DIR (well at least not my definition). I'm not counting people li...

This is actually a problem with technical diving as well. Divers with a few hundred dives who haven't *really* seen the shit hit the fan on OW dives who start pushing into decompression and overheads because nothing has gone wrong so far. The equipment and procedures are getting good enough that yo...

Like I said, I only know about 10 solo divers. ~9 of them probably do so for the risk taking thrill part (various motivations). Otherwise, the folks I'd feel comfortable knowing they were alone in the water don't do it anyway.

Kevin, once again you have spoken in such bizarre, cryptic language I bascially have no idea what you are talking about. Rather than dismiss MY efforts to involve a clearly interested segment of the public in the management of their public trust natural resources through democracy, maybe you should ...

People think they understand the risks of solo diving so they blissfully go off believing they are in charge and have mitigated those risks. When in reality they 1) don't have enough experience to actually gauge risk or have any firsthand UW problem management (e.g. never actually switched from a ka...

WDFW does not systematically count octopi. Roland Anderson at the Seattle Aqarium has published his volunteer count data here http://www.hawaii.edu/cowielab/Tentacle/Tentacle%2014%20(Cowie%202005).pdf Article starts on page 34. Not exactly oodles of octopi. WDFW is not interested in creating new hab...

Sergeant Pepper wrote: The only thing I could think of was that he came to the surface and didn't have air to fill his BC and wasn't thinking clearly enough to dump his weight?.

This was my first thought as well. His rescuers apparently didn't drop it either.

Well this was fun.

Personally I don't understand the appeal of solo, mostly cause I can't stand my own company for beers afterwards.

I think I would rather see an expansion of mpa's and enforcement of the laws protecting them. We have run more than one boat out of a protected enviroment more than once. All it takes is a mention in the fishing laws and the willingness to polietly remind the offending boat they are breaking the la...

You could tackle it yourself...

A pro leak check toolkits requires a couple of plastic pop bottles and a spraybottle of soap