I understand that, and as I recall I even said (in the part you snipped) that they may not be the best materials. For the umpteenth time, what has me baffled is the level of rage over a silly little Buzz Lightyear doll. (Incidentally, they actually wanted to put Woody down there, since he would the the logical one to be riding the animal, but they didn't have one.)spatman wrote:i'm not disputing the fun factor at all, dave. i'm all for fun. but plastics and car tires are not naturally occurring, nor are they broken down by the creatures living on it. there are better materials than plastics to provide structure for life.dwashbur wrote:There's life growing on the plastic dolls already, so they don't seem too bad for the life. The tire reef at Langley is one of the premier underwater attractions up on Whidbey.spatman wrote:car tires and plastic dolls? please.Chenari wrote:This way, at least, they become part of the environment, being broken down NATURALLY by the creatures living on it.
The VW wasn't naturally occurring, either, but the critters looked at it and said "CONDOS!" They moved in en masse. Likewise for the light cones and all the rest. A rock reef a la Salt Water State Park would be nice, but what we have there is pretty darn good, and the critters seem to agree. There's a diversity at Redondo that I just don't see anywhere else in the Sound. The Oil Dock used to be that way too, but the powers that be "fixed" that site and removed structures that were deemed inappropriate or "not naturally occurring." We all know how that turned out. Do we really want to start down that road with Redondo? Yo creo que NO.
Somebody else made a comment about the bottle field; but the bottle field is one of the most popular deep destinations down there, because critters like the bottles and stuff. Yesterday we found a big thing that looked like an old road sign next to the carousel boat, and under it was a HUGE sailfin sculpin. The critters like what we put down there because it gives them more places to hide and play. Then there's this:
This looks like an old welding gas bottle. But that YOY and the tubeworms think it's a great place to live. It's their opinion that counts, not ours.
As for this comment:
You don't know that. It hasn't been there long enough for flora to take hold, but there's every likelihood it will. The only difference between it and some of the other items down there is time. Again, the original "bondage Barbie" has lots of stuff growing on it, and a lot of critters eat that stuff. So that one object has made a place for more critter food to grow. I see that as a good thing.A large,plastic t rex is not an environment that anything is going to live in/on............
Look at the condition of the VW now. The sea will reclaim what we give it. It just takes differing amounts of time.
And yet again, if somebody wants to impose their view on everybody else and remove it, nobody is stopping them.
And spatty, chenari is not the one having the temper tantrum. The very topic of this thread is a temper tantrum.