How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
I added thigh pockets to my suit while I wasn't diving after my eye surgery last winter. I've been feeling a little out of sorts since I started diving again and am beginning to think that being out of trim (foot heavy) was caused by more than just time off from diving. I think that other than the bolt snaps my pocket contents are probably neutrally buoyant. Moving 2lbs from my belt to the top cam band seemed to help last night when I was diving a LP-95.
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They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
It depends on what you put in them!
Not much, if at all. Nothing you're going to have in your pockets are going to weigh much. SMB, spool, spare mask, wet notes, dive alert, strobe, rubber-chicken, etc.
Not much, if at all. Nothing you're going to have in your pockets are going to weigh much. SMB, spool, spare mask, wet notes, dive alert, strobe, rubber-chicken, etc.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Did anything else change? Fins, undergarments, booties?
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Same fins (Jets) and attached boots. Undergarment, socks, and underwear unchanged. I'm still wearing gators. I did switch to dry gloves. Same BP/W as before. I try to consistently put my cylinder in a location that has balanced well in the past.
My pocket contents are pretty consistent usually a spool/SMB, a folding snorkel, a backup bottom timer, and car keys. Sometimes I switch to a larger spool and SMB, add a Dive Alert, or carry a small strobe.
Are 4-6 bolt snaps really off my CG enough to throw me out of trim?
My pocket contents are pretty consistent usually a spool/SMB, a folding snorkel, a backup bottom timer, and car keys. Sometimes I switch to a larger spool and SMB, add a Dive Alert, or carry a small strobe.
Are 4-6 bolt snaps really off my CG enough to throw me out of trim?
"Just to be clear, doing the Diamond Knot requires at the minimum double IPAs to be DIR." - MattleyCrue
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Did you lose or gain weight? I went very head-heavy when I lost 30lbs.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Interesting, I may be 10lbs heavier. I have no idea how well the scale is calibrated though, it was in the bathroom cabinet when I moved in.Sounder wrote:Did you lose or gain weight? I went very head-heavy when I lost 30lbs.
"Just to be clear, doing the Diamond Knot requires at the minimum double IPAs to be DIR." - MattleyCrue
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
I actually had to completely redistribute my weight in doubles after losing the weight and test several various options before finding the right combination of placement and poundage.renoun wrote:Interesting, I may be 10lbs heavier. I have no idea how well the scale is calibrated though, it was in the bathroom cabinet when I moved in.Sounder wrote:Did you lose or gain weight? I went very head-heavy when I lost 30lbs.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Are you expecting us to infer that you have a large head and a smaller derriere now that you have lost 30lbs?Sounder wrote:Did you lose or gain weight? I went very head-heavy when I lost 30lbs.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Where can I get a DIR rubber chicken?
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i want the beer/boltsnap rig in renoun's avatar.nwbobber wrote:Where can I get a DIR rubber chicken?
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Woah!!!!! What happened to Puppies and Ice-cream?
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
we ate them. they were tasty.ljjames wrote:Woah!!!!! What happened to Puppies and Ice-cream?
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Ross go look at that video from last night. You may have felt really out of trim, you sure didn't look it.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Well Archie Mcfee of course, but I don't think it is DIR unless you use a stainless bolt snap and tie on with cave line to avoid metal to metal connections. If you can't cut it loose in an OOP (Out Of Poultry) situation then it isn't safe for the team.nwbobber wrote:Where can I get a DIR rubber chicken?
That was after I over-corrected and wound up head heavy. But then I suppose a few smart people have told me that level trim can feel a bit head heavy.Nwbrewer wrote:Ross go look at that video from last night. You may have felt really out of trim, you sure didn't look it.
They wouldn't hold still while I posed them for a photo so I ate all the ice cream. I don't suppose that could have anything to do with the wight gain.ljjames wrote:Woah!!!!! What happened to Puppies and Ice-cream?
"Just to be clear, doing the Diamond Knot requires at the minimum double IPAs to be DIR." - MattleyCrue
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
"Mmmm....... Oreos!
They didn't look too good when I was spitting in my mask for dive #2!" - cardiver
Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
Since my pockets have been X-shorts for the last three years, and since anything that CAN be forgotten eventually will be, I can absolutely state that the presence or absence of pockets and the usual pocket contents makes no different to trim at all!
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
My vote is weight loss and undergarment changes are the culprit. I went head heavy (again) when I lost about 20lb last year.
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Re: How much do thigh pockets affect trim?
So, it's probably not the pockets but it doesn't really matter. Trim weighting has to be adjusted from time to time.