Dive Accident in Nanaimo

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Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by kdupreez » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:51 pm

Reports are coming in that there was a dive accident near Snake Island in Nanaimo..

3 divers involved, one sole survivor made it, one confirmed deceased and the third is still missing (presumed deceased.)

I'm also hearing reports that they were from Seattle and they were doing 200+ ft deep Tec dives off Sea Dragon boat..

Everyone OK out there?

http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/news/on ... o-1.657706
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Joshua Smith » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:16 pm

Damnit. Afaik, all my crew is fine.
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by spatman » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:16 am

Damn. Tragic.
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by mpspringer » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:06 am

Horrible news

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Dusty2 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:13 am

It always hits home when you see a header like that. So many questions, is it someone I know?, what about the survivor? and so many others but all we can do is wait hope and prey for those involved. My hat is off to those first responders. That fast for so far out is pretty amazing.

Here's hoping for good news.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by LowDrag » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:26 am

This is sad...my hopes and prayers go out to the divers and their families.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Joshua Smith » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:55 am

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by yadayada » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:01 am

Sad to hear this, our group was out there on the same wall this past weekend with the same crew - hard to imagine what they and the divers' families are going through right now. My thoughts go to all of them at this moment.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by kdupreez » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:48 pm

Confirmed "US Tourists" and the Sea Dragon charter..

http://www.cheknews.ca/?bckey=AQ~~,AAAA ... 0132537001
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Dusty2 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:08 pm

I must say that I am really proud of the way board members are handling this. Other boards are not so lucky.

We all know something went wrong but there is little chance that we will ever know anything about it.

Dive safe guys. The sport is only as safe as we make it.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by dwashbur » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:58 am

It's hard to find any "good" news in an event like this, but I'm encouraged that someone found the missing diver's body. At least now his loved ones have a better chance of dealing with the tragedy.

And by all accounts, the response of the rescue crews and other officials was phenomenal.
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by H20doctor » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:32 pm

lots of drama on Scuba board...
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Jeff Pack » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:05 pm

that was a harsh thread to read...
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by fishb0y » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:21 pm

From what I saw it was a little scattered. Please don't take this as being calloused however... I truly feel incidents such as these need to be harshly critiqued to get as many lessons learned as possible.
I find that most of these lessons are swept under the rug to 'protect' the victim's memory and family. Procedures and lessons are learned from the mistakes of others.
Heaven forbid, if something would happen to me... Please share my mistakes, criticize my judgement and share those lessons. People need to learn those lessons.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by defied » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:06 pm

fishb0y wrote:From what I saw it was a little scattered. Please don't take this as being calloused however... I truly feel incidents such as these need to be harshly critiqued to get as many lessons learned as possible.
I find that most of these lessons are swept under the rug to 'protect' the victim's memory and family. Procedures and lessons are learned from the mistakes of others.
Heaven forbid, if something would happen to me... Please share my mistakes, criticize my judgement and share those lessons. People need to learn those lessons.


I agree with you, but the critiquing needs to happen after the facts are presented. Not all the facts are here yet. When the official report comes out, then that would be the time to discuss what can someone do in the future to prevent that situation from happening to them.

I've got information, and I post what I know (With the exception of privacy, and what I've been asked not to talk about)as I get it. Koos has information, and he's posting what he knows.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Desert Diver » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:58 pm

fishb0y wrote:From what I saw it was a little scattered. Please don't take this as being calloused however... I truly feel incidents such as these need to be harshly critiqued to get as many lessons learned as possible.
I find that most of these lessons are swept under the rug to 'protect' the victim's memory and family. Procedures and lessons are learned from the mistakes of others.
Heaven forbid, if something would happen to me... Please share my mistakes, criticize my judgement and share those lessons. People need to learn those lessons.


I'm certainly not a tech diver, nor will I be, but I agree with fishb0y. As hard as it may be for friends and family we need to get the information and digest it so we can all learn.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Dusty2 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:17 pm

No way to critique anything when we know nothing. we or at least I have heard nothing in the way of details other than they were diving a deep wall with plans to go below 200fsw. We don't know if they were on open circuit, CC, air, trimix or much of anything else. At least I don't since I have not made the trek over to SB. Hopefully there will be something to be learned but for us non tech types I don't know what it might be.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by kdupreez » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:32 pm

Dusty2 wrote:No way to critique anything when we know nothing. we or at least I have heard nothing in the way of details other than they were diving a deep wall with plans to go below 200fsw. We don't know if they were on open circuit, CC, air, trimix or much of anything else. At least I don't since I have not made the trek over to SB. Hopefully there will be something to be learned but for us non tech types I don't know what it might be.


They were on OC and Air the ended up below 200ft and the body was recovered at 255ft.. I know this for a fact. (at least the 2 deceased divers were on air) the survivor that stayed/bailed at 160 was on trimix..

Picture from one of the diver's OC gear. 50% deco bottle is still stowed.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by renoun » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:13 pm

FWIW the Time's Colonist (major paper from Victoria) posted an article today after the second fatality was recovered.
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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by pensacoladiver » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:15 pm

I'll go ahead and say it... Going below 130ish up that way sans helium is about the stupidest thing you can do.

No idea yet what the planned depth was, but it looks to be deeper than 130.

I just had a damn near knock down drag out fight with my buddy in Florida for going to 145 closed circuit on air. Everything is fine.... Right up until it ain't.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by defied » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:29 pm

Koos, that's the survivors gear.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Dusty2 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:39 pm

Thanks Koos,

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by Dusty2 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:09 pm

pensacoladiver wrote:I'll go ahead and say it... Going below 130ish up that way sans helium is about the stupidest thing you can do.

No idea yet what the planned depth was, but it looks to be deeper than 130.

I just had a damn near knock down drag out fight with my buddy in Florida for going to 145 closed circuit on air. Everything is fine.... Right up until it ain't.


IMHO The simple rule is the deeper you go the greater the risk. Proper training is great, proper equipment is great, Following the rules is mandatory but in the end Shit happens and the deeper you are when it does the less likely you'll survive. Murphy's law can and will happen no matter how many precautions you take and the more margin you leave yourself the better. Everyone is different and the tables are just generalities based on averages and can be way off for any individual on any given day. Ask some of our members that have taken chamber rides after a normally safe dive. Simple science says the deeper you go the higher the odds.

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Re: Dive Accident in Nanaimo

Post by kdupreez » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:37 pm

Dusty2 wrote:He who wishes a long life should not lean against the guard rail. :eek:


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