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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Diver_C » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 am

It looks like I've found a new back-up light. Thanks Bob!

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:51 pm

The light arrived today via USPS. Dive Right In Scuba joins my list of good companies. A very pleasant contrast to so many who either promise much and deliver little, or who "free ship" via the slowest possible method and the item shows literally months later.

Of course my wife gave me "the look" at buying a light when I am several months away from actually diving again. I mollified her by saying it was just more motivation. :)

They sent along a lanyard with what seems to me a very small attach string. Is that thing any good? For anything?
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Dashrynn » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:25 am

airsix wrote:I would expect some dimming across the burn-time. An alkaline C cell (highest quality) can put out roughly 8 watts for 1 hour. With 3 you have the capacity of 24 watt hours. The emitter in this light draws 10 watts at max output (the claimed 1k lumen), so you can see that it would be capable of max output for 2.4 hours if it were current-regulated and there were no losses. To go 5 hours would require being unregulated or dropping out of regulation when the batts are no longer able to support 10 watts. Bottom line is the light MUST dim during at least the second 2.5 hours of operation (or more if not regulated) because 3 C cells cannot support 10 watts for 5 hours. That's exactly the behavior and design I'd want in a backup light and next time I dive with Bob I'm going to want a good look at it because I already think I want one.

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[sarcasm]There goes all that math stuff nobody ever wants to hear about.[/sarcasm] Interesting light though, let's hear some reviews in this thread when dove for a month or after further testing.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by airsix » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:38 am

Seriously? 8x3=24 and 24/10=2.4 was too much math? You're kidding, right?
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Joshua Smith » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:02 am

airsix wrote:Seriously? 8x3=24 and 24/10=2.4 was too much math? You're kidding, right?
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It's a dig at me, which I probably deserve. Carry on, math lovers.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Dusty2 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:21 am

airsix wrote:I am in the top 1% of financial advisors that have a home-made dive light and sometimes sleep at Bob's house.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Dusty2 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:26 am

ArcticDiver wrote:The light arrived today via USPS. Dive Right In Scuba joins my list of good companies. A very pleasant contrast to so many who either promise much and deliver little, or who "free ship" via the slowest possible method and the item shows literally months later.

Of course my wife gave me "the look" at buying a light when I am several months away from actually diving again. I mollified her by saying it was just more motivation. :)

They sent along a lanyard with what seems to me a very small attach string. Is that thing any good? For anything?

I have several of those and yes they are quite good. If they are what I am used to the string is Kevlar and very strong.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Dashrynn » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:28 pm

Joshua Smith wrote:
airsix wrote:Seriously? 8x3=24 and 24/10=2.4 was too much math? You're kidding, right?
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It's a dig at me, which I probably deserve. Carry on, math lovers.


Meh, I just recall someone joking at prior mathematical formulas. To some, a cup is an ocean, to others it's a drop.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by airsix » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Dashrynn wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
airsix wrote:Seriously? 8x3=24 and 24/10=2.4 was too much math? You're kidding, right?
Ben

It's a dig at me, which I probably deserve. Carry on, math lovers.


Meh, I just recall someone joking at prior mathematical formulas. To some, a cup is an ocean, to others it's a drop.


Also, I was reading on Tapatalk with my phone which does NOT display the sarcasm font. I just now saw it as it was intended, which totally changes my interpretation. My bad. Again.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:47 pm

Dusty2 wrote:
ArcticDiver wrote:The light arrived today via USPS. Dive Right In Scuba joins my list of good companies. A very pleasant contrast to so many who either promise much and deliver little, or who "free ship" via the slowest possible method and the item shows literally months later.

Of course my wife gave me "the look" at buying a light when I am several months away from actually diving again. I mollified her by saying it was just more motivation. :)

They sent along a lanyard with what seems to me a very small attach string. Is that thing any good? For anything?


I have several of those and yes they are quite good. If they are what I am used to the string is Kevlar and very strong.


Really? Kevlar? The light is a bit slippery so if the lanyard is that strong I can use it to make sure I don't drop the bloody thing just when I need it.

Needless to say I haven't had it in the water yet. Nor, have I been able to use it at night since that is a scarce thing this time of year. But, I did take it into a large, dark room where I compared it to my other small lights. Very nice. Well worth the money. Also, for me it helps me standardize on two battery sizes plus the battery pack on my can light.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Jeff Kruse » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:10 am

What C cells have 6AH? (6AH*1.4V=8WH)

I thought C's were closer to 3AH?

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by spatman » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:58 am

airsix wrote:Also, I was reading on Tapatalk with my phone which does NOT display the sarcasm font.


Which is why the words within the [sarcasm]sarcasm[/sarcasm] tags are preceded and followed by **.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by airsix » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:25 pm

Jeff Kruse wrote:What C cells have 6AH? (6AH*1.4V=8WH)

I thought C's were closer to 3AH?


I've been using this as a reference, but looking at the fine print I see they are giving the battery breaks.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:44 pm

Dusty2 wrote:
ArcticDiver wrote:The light arrived today via USPS. Dive Right In Scuba joins my list of good companies. A very pleasant contrast to so many who either promise much and deliver little, or who "free ship" via the slowest possible method and the item shows literally months later.

Of course my wife gave me "the look" at buying a light when I am several months away from actually diving again. I mollified her by saying it was just more motivation. :)

They sent along a lanyard with what seems to me a very small attach string. Is that thing any good? For anything?

I have several of those and yes they are quite good. If they are what I am used to the string is Kevlar and very strong.


Emailed DRIS. The response was that the entire lanyard, including the thin loop, is nylon. However, at my request he is rechecking.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:12 pm

Kevlar or Nylon?

That was the lanyard question. What is the little loop at the end of the lanyard made of? According to an email from DRIS that I just received it is nylon.

Frankly, considering the light's price and use that is a bit cheesy thing for DRIS to do. If they were going to include a lanyard it should be something a person could actually use with confidence. And, to be fair to them, I have told them so.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Grateful Diver » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:35 am

Considering the light's price and performance, I can't believe you're complaining about a lanyard. Most folks who purchase this light won't even use one ... we put a boltsnap back there.

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Post by Joshua Smith » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 am

Grateful Diver wrote:Considering the light's price and performance, I can't believe you're complaining about a lanyard. Most folks who purchase this light won't even use one ... we put a boltsnap back there.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:22 pm

Grateful Diver wrote:Considering the light's price and performance, I can't believe you're complaining about a lanyard. Most folks who purchase this light won't even use one ... we put a boltsnap back there.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)


Oh, so you know everyone who buys this light and how they use the light? Come on now, you're good, but not That good.

There are many uses for dive lights. When I spend money on something I expect to and intend to get the last bit of use out of whatever it is. In this case had they not put anything in the package I wouldn't have mentioned a thing. But, when they put in a cheesy piece of string that disappoints me. Had I been the seller I wouldn't have put anything in, or I would have put in the style lanyard that UK and Princeton Tec put in theirs. Both make the light useful for multiple purposes.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Grateful Diver » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:43 am

ArcticDiver wrote:
Grateful Diver wrote:Considering the light's price and performance, I can't believe you're complaining about a lanyard. Most folks who purchase this light won't even use one ... we put a boltsnap back there.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)


Oh, so you know everyone who buys this light and how they use the light?


No ... and I'm not going to belabor the point too much ... but the light is being marketed as a backup light, and they don't normally come with a lanyard. I know my Photon Torpedoes didn't, nor my Rat Juniors, nor even that piece of crap Raider I bought from Oxycheq ... and all of those lights were more expensive and less bright than this one.

Over on ScubaBoard there's a thread reviewing this light. There's almost 200 responses in it already, and not one mentions the lanyard. Some folks are asking for a light sock or goodman handle ... and when I get some time I'll probably just build my own ... but no one's asking for a better lanyard. There are, however, pretty much universal rave reviews for the light.

Personally, I don't see that it's worth complaining about. But that's just me. If i wanted a better lanyard I'd just make one out of a piece of string and a few inches of aquarium tubing. Or spend a couple bucks extra and get one that suited me.

You bought a great light at a great price ... I just don't see the point of complaining about a piece of string.

Some folks would complain if you whapped them upside the head with a brand new baseball bat ... :stickwhack:

BTW - I own a couple UK lights (SL4 & Q40) ... they both came with a rubber lanyard that's not much good for anything.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by ArcticDiver » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:43 pm

Gee, did you have a hard time at work, or something? There are comments, complaints, Complaints and COMPLAINTS. Really this was more of a comment on their marketing than anything. As I posted, you did read it didn't you?, if it had been me I wouldn't have included anything. But, when they included a cheesy piece of string, it deserved a comment; espcially since UK and PT included very nice lanyards with their lights that I use as backups.

I'm looking forward to a chance to use it in the water in the near future.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by airsix » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:55 pm

Personally, if I'm going to buy one of these I am glad they didn't spend more money on a fancy lanyard. It would increase the price and I'm going to throw it away anyway since like Bob says I'm going to boltsnap it.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Alaska-Herb » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:43 pm

Grateful Diver wrote:Spec on the battery life says up to 5 hours. I'm gonna order some NiMH batteries and see how well it works with rechargeables ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Hey Bob have you tested the NIMH batteries in this light yet. I have the 500 lum and the 1000 versions and was just waiting to get your review before i invested on rechargeable

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Grateful Diver » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:19 pm

Alaska-Herb wrote:
Grateful Diver wrote:Spec on the battery life says up to 5 hours. I'm gonna order some NiMH batteries and see how well it works with rechargeables ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Hey Bob have you tested the NIMH batteries in this light yet. I have the 500 lum and the 1000 versions and was just waiting to get your review before i invested on rechargeable

Thanks
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Sorry Herb ... I haven't even had a chance to order them yet, much less try them.

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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by fmerkel » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:37 pm

Somewhat of a topic diversion-but these cells will fit in a lot of lights:
VETCO in Bellevue off Northrup Way [http://www.vetco.net/] has 2000mA Japan made C-cell Sanyos (I'm pretty sure) for $0.90. I've verified the capacity on about 10 cells so they seem to be OK. These are pretty good rechargeables for a remarkably low price.
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Re: Looking for a great inexpensive light?

Post by Grateful Diver » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:42 am

I'm gonna swing by Batteries Plus during lunch today ... they've got some 5000 mAH Powerex batteries I want to try ...

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