New valve.. Worth it?

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New valve.. Worth it?

Post by ManBearPig » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:14 am

I'm new to diving and don't know much about the value of older gear... While amassing my gear, I was given 3 out of hydro tanks with a BCD I bought. The tanks were a AL80, a LP steel 76, and a LP steel 100. All passed hydro, but the valve on the steel 100 is shot. It's an older threaded model and my local dice shop says it will be $100 for a new valve. The tank was made in 1964. Is it worth getting this tank fixed?
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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by ljjames » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:02 am

nope.
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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by Dusty2 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:15 am

That valve is an antique. However if you look around, You can find a better value on that valve. In fact I may have one that would fit. No reason to dump a tank that has already passed hydro.

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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by Peter Guy » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:15 pm

LJ --- curious as to why you think $100 isn't worth it for a 100 cft tank that now as a new valve?

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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by ljjames » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:40 pm

I would need to know a lot more about the tank in question, but I still don't think that would sway my answer.

Many tanks of that era were very thin walled which translates to insanely positively buoyant, and if it were me (and keep in mind I'm perpetually on a budget) that it will be a lot more hassle than its worth to sort out. I have a couple of this era tanks of assorted sizes that kind souls have 'given' to me and with all the convolutions to make them matchy matchy buoyancy wise (clamping lead to the appropriate place, etc..) it just hasn't been worth it. Even if used as an argon bank, when you are dealing with such low pressure it isn't helpful unless you have a booster. The last tank I had like this in use we turned into an 'argon flush' tank for the dive charter boat, so that clients could do the fill-dump-fill-dump-fill-dump cycle 3 times without depleting their personal dive argon.

Of course if you are looking for a low pressure (most likely 1800-2100psi) super floaty (or super negative, who knows) steel tank with a pipe thread valve, then knock yourself out ;) I just think there are better options for spending that $100.
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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by BillZ » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:53 pm

Those old tanks with pipe threads make really nice bells. If you're looking to get rid of it for scrap value let me know, I'd like to pick one up as a project to do with my daughter.

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Post by CaptnJack » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:55 pm

is it a pipe thread valve with Teflon tape?
or is it a 3/4" neck tank with an Oring?

If its a pipe thread I wouldn't even have bothered with the hydro and (honestly) if it was hydroed through a shop they were delinquent in not advising you about just scrapping a 1/2" pipe thread. Value on that tank is negative i.e. "please haul it away"

A 3/4" oring sealed thread is "modern" and valves are way less than $100.
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Re: New valve.. Worth it?

Post by CaptnJack » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:00 pm

Peter Guy wrote:LJ --- curious as to why you think $100 isn't worth it for a 100 cft tank that now as a new valve?


In part because you have to make sure your yoke reg will fit over the knob on the top. Some yoke whips at shops wont fit. And some shops would probably look at those 51yo threads and say sorry Charlie, not going to fill that tank regardless of vip and hydro.

On craigslist the value of that tank to a knowledgeable buyer is zero. Why put $100 into it to have it still worth zero even with the new valve (which I'm not sure is even available new, possibly on the vintage/rebuilt market)
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