Staying warm on a budget

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Staying warm on a budget

Post by djmcmath » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:35 pm

As the water cools, I'm re-examining my drysuit undergarment setup. Right now, I'm wearing a pair of sweat pants and a thermal fleece. Yesterday's dives were shockingly cold. I borrowed someone else's undergarment -- just a thin set of coveralls, basically -- for the second dive, and I was much happier and more comfortable. Still cold, but less cold, I'd say. So I clearly need a proper thermal undergarment.

Unfortunately, my budget for new dive gear is approximately $0 for the next few months, so blowing $400 on a decent set of thermals is out of the question. But I really want to keep diving, and I don't really want to freeze to death.

So who's running a low cost thermal undergarment setup? Is anyone just diving with sweaters and coats and making it work well enough? Tips and tricks? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by Penopolypants » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:37 pm

What type of drysuit do you have? Shell, neoprene, compressed neoprene?

And what size are you?
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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by djmcmath » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:36 pm

It's a shell suit.

I'm 5'9, 165lbs, without enough "natural insulation" to really ward off the cold.

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by Penopolypants » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:09 pm

Oof. Yeah, you're going to need a true undergarment eventually.

I have a fairly thin USIA exotherm that might fit you that you can borrow (I think, I'll have to do some digging). That and your fleece layers might get you by for a while until you can save up for something better. Do you have any merino wool base layers? They're spendy, unfortunately, if you don't have them already, but they're wonderful.

A Weezle Extreme + is my go-to favorite undergarment, and you can find them used on various boards and ebay for $200 or so, or John Rawlings here is a dealer if you want to go new.
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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by mpenders » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:30 pm

A brand new, fluffy, dry suit undergarment is wonderful to use, but not absolutely necessary. Try polar fleece and under armor type lycra/synthetic base layers. Several might be needed to create the loft/air barrier between your skin and the suit that is needed to keep you warm(er). Try various combinations until you find a winner. You might even be able to find them on the cheap at thrift shops, goodwill, or the like.

Stay away from cotton! This includes jeans, sweats, and flannel. When (not if) you get some leakage into the suit, wet cotton has zero insulating properties, and will suck any warmth right out of you. Synthetics that have a wicking quality are ideal. Wool is okay, but might be more labor intensive to maintain/clean.

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by mpenders » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:37 pm

... and then start saving for a Weezle.

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by Penopolypants » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:16 pm

mpenders wrote:... and then start saving for a Weezle.


Right? :)

Merino wool is machine washable. You can also technically machine dry it as well, but like most performance fabrics, it's best to line dry it. So it's not any worse than anything else in terms of work.
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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by dlh » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:18 pm

I have a Diving Concepts onepiece zip up undergarment that I only used a few times and have not touched in years. It's yours if you want it. It should fit you just fine.
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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by H20doctor » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:36 am

I have owned the Typhoon 200g Thermal Scuba Drysuit Undergarment now for 1.5 years its thick and warm ... and its easy on the wallet.. the 200g is really too thick... If i bought another one id buy the 100g ..
do a google search , and look on Ebay ... very nice Undergarment

ebay Has the 100g for 99.00
the 200g runs 129.00
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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by Grateful Diver » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:07 am

I have an old Weezle Extreme undie I will give you for your budgeted $0 ... you just have to make your way to Federal Way to pick it up. It's well-worn and patched, but better than what you're using ... and should give you plenty of thermal protection for a winter, at least.

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by djmcmath » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:07 am

Thanks for the replies, all. Sorry for the delayed response; this week has been somewhere between "hectic" and "a bunch of monkeys f---in' a football."

PM's sent, and thank you for the ideas and the offers.

Dan

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Re: Staying warm on a budget

Post by fmerkel » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:38 am

Go for the Weezle, they are excellent. This is from someone that has been wearing the 4thElement Arctic for years.
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