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Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:48 pm
by AquaticEngineer
Can anyone recommend any areas to go shallow water snorkeling?

I'll have a 7mm wetsuit, fins, mask and a snorkel soon enough but wont have the rest of the gear or the time/experience to full on dive.

I'm thinking of hitting the following areas:

Garibaldi - Closer to shore near the long pier. Been out there before at night and found some really cool stuff just wading around.

Netarts Bay & Tillamook Bay - Off of the south spits closer to the sand flats on the inside of the bays.

Any seagrass beds I can find.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:26 pm
by Furnari
Here's a few that I can think of off the top of my head that are further south:
The first finger jetty (furthest upriver) at the South Jetty in Newport- tide dependent, but has a fair amount of life. My brothers and I put our 60+ yr. old mom, sister, and 12 yr. old nephew in there without any problems.

South Jetty Crab Dock at Florence- also tide dependent, but you can drift in or just hang out in the sandy cove to the left of the dock. In the big cove to the right of the dock, there's some eel grass beds and I've seen pipefish there.

Winchester Bay "Triangle"- this is the enclosed area with the oyster farm off the South Jetty. Viz is usually crappy, but it's not tide dependent and is rarely blown out since it's protected. There's a a fair amount of life along the main jetty, but watch for the large pipes that allow water to go in and out to the river. When we were new divers, this was our default location because the conditions are relatively benign.

Clear Lake would be cold in a wetsuit but still doable if you plan ahead- a crab cooker to make neoprene soup will help out, especially if you're making multiple dives. There would be a lot to see from the surface.

During the fall, many of the mountain lakes have kokanee that spawn in the shallows- Crescent Lake near Willamette Pass is spectacular for this, and would be fun to snorkel.

We hit these sites fairly often, so let me know if you'd ever like to meet us out there for a site briefing.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:50 pm
by Beefcake
Because the visibility is so bad most of the time at the Oregon coast, I haven't found much to see in the shallow water. However, I love any excuse to throw on a wetsuit and look anyway. The 1st finger at Newport / South Beach is probably a good idea (haven't dove the 1st finger, but the other fingers have a fair amount of life), but the entry off the rocks can be a little tricky for some people. There is a nice sandy beach at Wacoma Dock area in South Beach (between Noaa and OSU). The Tillamook pier also has an easy entry (stairs into the water from the parking lot next to the public crabbing pier). Another option is Nehalem Bay; with the exception of the main channel, most of the bay is less than 10' deep and easily accessible from the state park. Of these options, the 1st finger at Newport probably has the best chance of seeing any fish; the others might have crabs and clams, but much of the area looks like the surface of the moon.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:51 am
by AquaticEngineer
Thanks guys :)

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:09 am
by AquaticEngineer
Well I'm slowly gathering up my gear, got my wetsuit and hood, borrowed a pair of goggles and a snorkel, and now I'm trying to find some fins and boots so I can go out and look do some shallow snorkeling monday night around Garibaldi.

I'm having my kids playgroup come over to my house on Tuesday to see all of my coldwater marine tanks and do touch tanks for them, so I gotta get a few more kid friendly critters to put in my system for the kiddos :)

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:13 am
by AquaticEngineer
Ugggghhhhhh.......

Horrible visibility, and didnt manage to find anything but the usually inverts and a big shovelhead sculpin that ate the rest of the bait fish we caught :(

But even though I didnt find any bobtail squid, or octopus, or pipefish, it was still totally worth it to finally get out in the water with all my gear on. (well, what gear I have, lol)

Its been a few years since I have been snorkeling, and even then it was just in warmer fresh water. Coldwater snorkeling is a whole other world :D I dont think I will ever tidepool collect ever again. If I take the time to go to th ocean, I'm gonna be in the water. I gotta tell you guys I got the diving bug bad now with just that little taste. By this summer I will for sure be fully geared and trained for scuba.

Quick question for anyone who is reading along. I went without fins this time since most of what I was snorkeling was pretty shallow, well it worked out ok, but it would have been 1000 times easier with fins.

What I'm wondering is since I'm looking for a set of fins now, should I go ahead and get a more rigid fin with the anticipation of using it at deeper depths when I am diving? Or should I get a more flexible "snorkeling" fin?

Any input on the matter would be greatly appreciated :D

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:17 pm
by guitarmaker
The topics of fins are well covered on this forum and in others but that's ok, it's an important topic. If your plan is to go into scuba diving then you need to decide where you'll be diving and what kick is best for your location. For example; split fins are a popular item in the dive magazines and scuba shops: they're easy for beginners to swim with and diving areas covered in coral, rock or hard packed sand your probably not going to be kicking up a lot of silt and screwing up the viz. On the other hand, the Hood Canal or Puget Sound for the most part has a bottom thats very soft and stirs up extremely easy. Poor fin choices used by a novice with poor buoyancy and trim can really make a mess - I'm talking silt storms that look like walls. The hard rubber, solid blade fins, jet or rocket style like scuba pro, turtles, Hollis F1's and similar are popular with divers who need be concerned about mucking up the viz. These fin types work well for frog kicking (do a youtube search) which minimizes kicking up silt. IF your planning on going north, plan on developing good buoyancy, trim and swimming techniques and then turn and look behind you once in awhile just to see if your making a mess.

Hope this helps

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:20 pm
by Tom Nic
If viz cooperated, Sund Rock would have great snorkeling in the shallows - recently viz has been great in the shallows. Unfortunately, once spring summer algae blooms hit the top 20-30fsw is really murky.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:00 pm
by AquaticEngineer
Thanks for the input guys :)

The areas I will mostly be snorkeling, free diving, and diving are bays along the oregon coast really. Not extremely silty where we have been.

Other than that it will be in coastal rocky areas on the pacific.

Sund Rock sounds like it might be worth a trip up north, just gotta get my buddy geared out and in the water.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:05 am
by oregon111
Rivers: Washougal in SW Washington, LIttle North Santiam, Wilson, South Umqua, I heard the Illinois is great - I swam in a nice pool once, but did not have snorkling gear

The rivers don't have much fish or much life, but have lots of cool volcanic rock formations!

Lakes: never snorkled any - and I doubt there would be much to get excited about (flat bottoms) - maybe see a big fish or two

I have snorkled in Hood Canal - that was fun - I think I was a little north of Sund Rock - also hit some other areas,

the "key" to snorkling Hood Canal is to hit it at LOW TIDE - so you can get farther offshore and still see stuff

The rivers & Hood Canal are awesome for taking a breath and diving down and exploring the rocky shelfs

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interesting spots to Snorkle on Oregon coast (disclaimer: I have not done it)

1. Whales cove - that spot looks like it was "made for snorkleing"

2. Boiler Bay - area to the north of the trail

3. South side of Cape Lookout

4. Otter Rock - maybe on a very small swell day by the surfers but next to the rocky cliff

5. Cape by Agate Beach - go to outer cape

6. Sunset BAy/Cape Arago

7. Port Orford

8. Some spots down by Brookings

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:15 pm
by AquaticEngineer
Thanks for all the ideas on places to check out :) Most recently I've gone to Seal Rock, and a little farther south to a place near Strawberry Hill outside of Florence.

TONS of cool stuff to see going high speed low drag. No need for fins, or tanks, we do it in just the lowers of our 2 piece 7mm wetsuits with goggles and snorkles and some Kayak boots. There are so many deep crevice pools you can check out during the low tides :D We were even pulling up 6" rock scallops out of deep pools near Oceanside.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:37 am
by LittleGoat
That's awesome to hear about the scallops. Care to divulge the location?

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:16 pm
by -Aaron-
Not ocean snorkeling, but I thought I'd link this trip report since it seemed relevant:

http://www.nwdiveclub.com/viewtopic.php ... 31#p218631

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:00 pm
by AquaticEngineer
LittleGoat wrote:That's awesome to hear about the scallops. Care to divulge the location?
Its in the rocks that are exposed during low tides just to the north of the main beach access parking lot in Oceanside. You can either go through the tunnel in the rock or wait until the tide is low enough and walk out around it.
-Aaron- wrote:Not ocean snorkeling, but I thought I'd link this trip report since it seemed relevant:

http://www.nwdiveclub.com/viewtopic.php ... 31#p218631
Thats a sweet video :) We used to do a lot of snorkeling in the Umpqua when I was younger.

Went out tidepooling last weekend and found 4 of these little buggers though, Marbled Snailfish intertidally :D
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Also found 2 baby GPO's, here's some video of the larger one in one of my tanks.
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Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:47 am
by LittleGoat
Thanks for the heads up on the loc. That's awesome to hear about your finds!

How was Seal Rock by the way?

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:50 pm
by guitarmaker
How do you keep your aquarium cold enough for our local species?

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:59 pm
by AquaticEngineer
LittleGoat wrote:Thanks for the heads up on the loc. That's awesome to hear about your finds!

How was Seal Rock by the way?
Seal Rock was awesome :) Some great pools to snorkel in and TONS of life. Big Lings, Kelp Greenlings, Buffalo Sculpin, Red Irish Lords, Brown Irish Lords, Rock Greenlings, just about every kind of snailfish, Flatfish, Octopus, Blood Stars, Sun Stars, Painted Anemones, Crazy colored Moonglows all over the place.......tons more, literally in less than 5 ft of water.

With the amount of stuff I find free diving and snorkeling in the shallows it may be a while before I actually go full scuba now, lol.
guitarmaker wrote:How do you keep your aquarium cold enough for our local species?
I have a couple differet systems right now but all with chillers.

One is a refurbished 110 gallon Marineland Lobster tank with a 1/2 horse chiller plumbed with a 100 gallon marineland side by side tank.

The other is a 500 gallon fiberglass system with a 3/4 horse chiller thats being setup up, I'm gonna try some geothermal cooling methods with this one as well since the chiller is already going under the house and I have lots of room to trench down and coil pipe.

The one thats going in the house is a 1" think 30 gallon acrylic tank with a 1/10th HP chiller and a minifridge auto feeder that will house pipefish, tubesnouts and other species that need a lot of food.

I just broke down a 200 gallonish 60"x20"x36" acrylic tank to make room for the new fiberglass system.

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:26 pm
by KneeDeep
AquaticEngineer wrote: The other is a 500 gallon fiberglass system with a 3/4 horse chiller thats being setup up, I'm gonna try some geothermal cooling methods with this one as well since the chiller is already going under the house and I have lots of room to trench down and coil pipe.
You should get great results with the geo... depending on the tubing and length. You thinking a closed fresh water loop? Throw in an algal turf scrubber with a fan and you can't beat it. I use a ATS+fan on my tropical tank with halides and it helps huge with the summer months.
AquaticEngineer wrote: I just broke down a 200 gallonish 60"x20"x36" acrylic tank to make room for the new fiberglass system.
You have plans for the 200g? :smt064

Re: Shallow water snorkeling sites?

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:11 am
by AquaticEngineer
KneeDeep wrote:
AquaticEngineer wrote: I just broke down a 200 gallonish 60"x20"x36" acrylic tank to make room for the new fiberglass system.
You have plans for the 200g? :smt064
Sold it pretty quickly. I do have a 1" thick 35 gallon acrlic tank with a closed loop 1/10th HP chiller and mini fridge auto feeder plumbed into it I may be selling. I built is as a ready to go coldwater tank for inside my house, all it needs is the cabinet doors finished.
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