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Very cold today. I no longer WANT a dry suit! I NEED a dry suit!
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Greg
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Yup you need one. Have you tried the cooler full of hot water to pour down your suit, warm up your gloves, hood etc. Helps a lot while you look for the perfect suit. Last winter I was toughing it out with a wet suit. This year I can say for certain that a dry suit is definitely worth it!
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Yesterday was bloody cold! Got up early and drove up to Anacortes for a 7:30 AM hookup with some friends at Skyline. The temp was 28 degrees and the wind was howling out of the north strong enough to make my cooler with 2 gallons of fresh water in it skid across the pavement. Felt like it was bringing fresh air straight off the top of Mt. Baker. Brrrrrrrrrr indeed. I got into my drysuit first ... and fast.
Splashed around 8:15 ... we had figured slack for about 8:45. Somehow we managed to screw it up ... current was ripping, and vis was about 4 feet. Didn't even bother unclipping the camera. After about 20 minutes of drifting along bumping into things in a current that didn't seem to be slowing down any, I decided to call the dive ... drove 220 miles and four hours round-trip for a 34 minute dive.
It wasn't any warmer when we got out ... and that wind was so damn strong and cold I really didn't want to take off my drysuit. I couldn't imagine what it'd have been like in a wetsuit in those conditions ... but the word "hypothermia" comes to mind.
We stopped at The Farmhouse for breakfast on the way back ... after about 20 minutes and three cups of coffee I was finally starting to warm up.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Splashed around 8:15 ... we had figured slack for about 8:45. Somehow we managed to screw it up ... current was ripping, and vis was about 4 feet. Didn't even bother unclipping the camera. After about 20 minutes of drifting along bumping into things in a current that didn't seem to be slowing down any, I decided to call the dive ... drove 220 miles and four hours round-trip for a 34 minute dive.
It wasn't any warmer when we got out ... and that wind was so damn strong and cold I really didn't want to take off my drysuit. I couldn't imagine what it'd have been like in a wetsuit in those conditions ... but the word "hypothermia" comes to mind.
We stopped at The Farmhouse for breakfast on the way back ... after about 20 minutes and three cups of coffee I was finally starting to warm up.
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Whine whine complain complain..... "oh, it's sooooo cold!"
At least you guys get to DIVE.
Where I'm at, it warmed up today from -60F to a whopping -30F. Ooooo, a heat wave.
......And no diving.
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Lot of effort for a crummy dive. Too bad.
Have you had much luck with Skyline winter dives? I've given them up, generally too much Skagit river dump > viz goes to hell (as you saw), temperature plummets, fresh water mixes all the way down (no cap or thermocline to get under), and the invertebrate life pulls in due to the fresh water (my theory anyway) in making the dive kind of barren.
I have to admit we haven't had a lot of recent rain and recent Skagit flows are modest. . I'm not sure what the transit time or how long the fine silt from the Skagit impacts the area. Maybe this is the stuff from a couple weeks ago sloshing around.
Otherwise, one of my favorites.
Your timing didn't look too bad to me. I see 8:50 slack so would have went in about 8:20-8:30.
Fritz
Have you had much luck with Skyline winter dives? I've given them up, generally too much Skagit river dump > viz goes to hell (as you saw), temperature plummets, fresh water mixes all the way down (no cap or thermocline to get under), and the invertebrate life pulls in due to the fresh water (my theory anyway) in making the dive kind of barren.
I have to admit we haven't had a lot of recent rain and recent Skagit flows are modest. . I'm not sure what the transit time or how long the fine silt from the Skagit impacts the area. Maybe this is the stuff from a couple weeks ago sloshing around.
Otherwise, one of my favorites.
Your timing didn't look too bad to me. I see 8:50 slack so would have went in about 8:20-8:30.
Fritz
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Their's good Ice diving their. and a few warm springs that you can dive in.60south wrote:
Whine whine complain complain..... "oh, it's sooooo cold!"
At least you guys get to DIVE.
Where I'm at, it warmed up today from -60F to a whopping -30F. Ooooo, a heat wave.
......And no diving.
Greg
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Uh, I think I'm kinda far from those spots.loanwolf wrote:Their's good Ice diving their. and a few warm springs that you can dive in.
I'll either need an airplane or a really, really big chainsaw. Like two kilometers long.
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I just looked at your location so you are a Summit Camp. yea you are out were hell already froze over. But it is some very beautiful country though when its clear.60south wrote:Uh, I think I'm kinda far from those spots.loanwolf wrote:Their's good Ice diving their. and a few warm springs that you can dive in.
I'll either need an airplane or a really, really big chainsaw. Like two kilometers long.
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I use Rosario Strait with no corrections so slack before ebb would be 9:22am. No one agrees with me and most generally use Fishmiller's figures but others get blown off and I don't.
I would have gotten in for the swim at 9:10am or so. I time it so when I've dropped down and I'm actually diving the current turns a few minutes later. Since it's a low exchange day it doesn't affect the dive until you're ready to turn around anyway.
That sounds like a cold dive Bob. Ugh! I'm not real fond of early morning dives especially in this kind of weather. I do love that site however.
I do agree that vis isn't great when it's been raining a lot at Skyline but it's a good enough site that I usually just deal with it. You don't need great viz with a site that has that much stuff right in front of you.
At least you had a good breakfast at the Farmhouse!
I would have gotten in for the swim at 9:10am or so. I time it so when I've dropped down and I'm actually diving the current turns a few minutes later. Since it's a low exchange day it doesn't affect the dive until you're ready to turn around anyway.
That sounds like a cold dive Bob. Ugh! I'm not real fond of early morning dives especially in this kind of weather. I do love that site however.
I do agree that vis isn't great when it's been raining a lot at Skyline but it's a good enough site that I usually just deal with it. You don't need great viz with a site that has that much stuff right in front of you.
At least you had a good breakfast at the Farmhouse!
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It can be cold...I can live with that. The sun is shining and that is very nice.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
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How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
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... what's wrong with snow? Remember last December?Pinkpadigal wrote:It can be cold...I can live with that. The sun is shining and that is very nice.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
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So tell her to park on the street! And hang your gear in the living room.sheahanmcculla wrote:How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
Where are your priorities, man?
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Right now I'd PREFER snow! It's the single digit temps that are messin' with me...Grateful Diver wrote:... what's wrong with snow? Remember last December?Pinkpadigal wrote:It can be cold...I can live with that. The sun is shining and that is very nice.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
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Snow would be warm! I was supposed to dive last night so I got to the site and set all my gear up. The person I was supposed to dive with got there, wasn't feeling good so she decided to cancel. We ended up just going to dinner which was probably a smart thing.
As I was repacking my gear, my hood was frozen into some strange shape and the water bottle on my back seat was frozen solid!
Brrrrrrrrrrr! is right!
As I was repacking my gear, my hood was frozen into some strange shape and the water bottle on my back seat was frozen solid!
Brrrrrrrrrrr! is right!
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Tom on Christmas day, 2008Tom Nic wrote:Right now I'd PREFER snow! It's the single digit temps that are messin' with me...Grateful Diver wrote:... what's wrong with snow? Remember last December?Pinkpadigal wrote:It can be cold...I can live with that. The sun is shining and that is very nice.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
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You can run, but it doesn't take 3 months to service your regs and your dry suit!Tangfish wrote:I'm having none of this. Time to service the regs.
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Uh, if this cold snap lasts 3 months I may think about moving back to Idaho!!!!!!Tom Nic wrote:You can run, but it doesn't take 3 months to service your regs and your dry suit!Tangfish wrote:I'm having none of this. Time to service the regs.
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If you dont have a garage, I would suggest taking advantage of the warm water buckets at your local LDS that everyone hates now. Hang the stuff on their rack long enough to not be dripping & then load it back up.sheahanmcculla wrote:How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
If you have a garage, I'd recomend building a rack in there close to the doors & put a fan on the gear. My garage stays warm enough on its own to thaw the freeze from my cleaning & then dry the gear. I usually have to go out & turn my hood inside/rightside out(depends on where it was when i washed it)
Lots of folks hang in the bathroom over the tub. Washroom over a large drain pan works too. Personally I dont give a rip if its wet or frozen on the outside if its clean & dry on the inside.
She's your wife, she'll get over it. She wants you to be happy doesn't she?
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sheahanmcculla wrote:How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
You need to install one of those big, plastic washbasin sinks in the garage. I have an old concrete one in the basement. I just throw everything in it and let it soak in luke warm water while I go outside and hose off the suit really quick. Then I come in, hang up the suit and warm my hands up rinsing the other stuff. Works great.
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You wanna talk about Cold? I'll never forget this trip report written by Rich when he went to Iceland!
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dieseldude wrote:If you dont have a garage, I would suggest taking advantage of the warm water buckets at your local LDS that everyone hates now. Hang the stuff on their rack long enough to not be dripping & then load it back up.sheahanmcculla wrote:How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
If you have a garage, I'd recomend building a rack in there close to the doors & put a fan on the gear. My garage stays warm enough on its own to thaw the freeze from my cleaning & then dry the gear. I usually have to go out & turn my hood inside/rightside out(depends on where it was when i washed it)
Lots of folks hang in the bathroom over the tub. Washroom over a large drain pan works too. Personally I dont give a rip if its wet or frozen on the outside if its clean & dry on the inside.
She's your wife, she'll get over it. She wants you to be happy doesn't she?
MJ
p.s. My wife is just always mad at me. My dry gloves get front seat in front of the propane fireplace in the family room. TT for her.
Thanks Mike!
I have a garage but I should probably do the fan thing. It's warmer then outside, but not warm enough to dry the gear quick.
I have thought about a sink, but have not figured out the whole drain thing yet.ORDiver wrote:sheahanmcculla wrote:How do you guys wash your gear? I leave the hose in the garage so it doesn't freeze. As soon as I rinse the gear it all turns into Popsicles. And the wife has a hard time getting up the driveway when it is covered in ice.
You need to install one of those big, plastic washbasin sinks in the garage. I have an old concrete one in the basement. I just throw everything in it and let it soak in luke warm water while I go outside and hose off the suit really quick. Then I come in, hang up the suit and warm my hands up rinsing the other stuff. Works great.
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Yep it was much warmer then. But never fear it's supposed to warm slightly tomarrow and start snowing by Saturday! Besides were all crazy... Just ask my wife. :roll: :roll:Tom Nic wrote:Right now I'd PREFER snow! It's the single digit temps that are messin' with me...Grateful Diver wrote:... what's wrong with snow? Remember last December?Pinkpadigal wrote:It can be cold...I can live with that. The sun is shining and that is very nice.
As long as it doesn't snow, I will be happy.
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