So you think YOUR'RE tough??
So you think YOUR'RE tough??
With the impending blizzard impacting roughly half of the country I have a bit of spare time. So I thought I would give you guys a bit of a taste of midwest winter diving, for anyone unfamiliar with it.
Now, I have to admit - I did not actually dive this past weekend. I had too much to do, and there was too much commotion already. I'm not a big fan of overhead environments, so the list of people I'll dive with under the ice is relatively small. I do, however, enjoy being surface support. Because basically, you're in charge. And who doesn't like that?! Don't fear, I did do about a half dozen ice dives last year, and I plan on doing it again soon...this just wasn't the weekend.
As always, our ice dive was a *production*!! Several trips with the ATV, lots of surface support, a flag, and even some guys from the radio! It was a full weekend! Here are a few shots:
Pulling the ice chunks out of the hole. I prefer to cut one big hole and slide the chunk under the ice, but this works very nice for keeping all sides of the hole accessible. Nice for times when you have things to see in many directions.
Lines point to the hole, just in case. One of many safety precautions taught in an ice diving class.
You can barely make out the triangular hole in the middle. Bubbles from divers exhaust, as well as the weight of people and equipment on the ice, can cause the hole to become wet and slippery and require caution while moving about.
Diversions Ice Camp
I'm in the blue coat. I'm quite used to being surface support for cold weather dives. Mostly because I'm a wimp. (Photo credit: Tamara Thomsen)
Now, I have to admit - I did not actually dive this past weekend. I had too much to do, and there was too much commotion already. I'm not a big fan of overhead environments, so the list of people I'll dive with under the ice is relatively small. I do, however, enjoy being surface support. Because basically, you're in charge. And who doesn't like that?! Don't fear, I did do about a half dozen ice dives last year, and I plan on doing it again soon...this just wasn't the weekend.
As always, our ice dive was a *production*!! Several trips with the ATV, lots of surface support, a flag, and even some guys from the radio! It was a full weekend! Here are a few shots:
Pulling the ice chunks out of the hole. I prefer to cut one big hole and slide the chunk under the ice, but this works very nice for keeping all sides of the hole accessible. Nice for times when you have things to see in many directions.
Lines point to the hole, just in case. One of many safety precautions taught in an ice diving class.
You can barely make out the triangular hole in the middle. Bubbles from divers exhaust, as well as the weight of people and equipment on the ice, can cause the hole to become wet and slippery and require caution while moving about.
Diversions Ice Camp
I'm in the blue coat. I'm quite used to being surface support for cold weather dives. Mostly because I'm a wimp. (Photo credit: Tamara Thomsen)
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Is his beard frozen (last picture)? Or is it just grey?
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Haha, just grey! He hadn't been in the water yet, we're just fixing his mask before entering.citycatred wrote:Is his beard frozen (last picture)? Or is it just grey?
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Brrrrr! Hey! I just noticed the photo credit! I've been friends with Tammy for years! Please say hello to her for me when you next see her!
She does some GREAT underwater photography in the Great Lakes, and is one heckuva cave instructor as well!
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Truth. I have heard your name thrown around as well. I'm always amazed by the things she produces underwater, but I suppose practice makes perfect! And practice she DOES.John Rawlings wrote:Brrrrr! Hey! I just noticed the photo credit! I've been friends with Tammy for years! Please say hello to her for me when you next see her!
She does some GREAT underwater photography in the Great Lakes, and is one heckuva cave instructor as well!
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I'm afraid I'm one day going to find myself in her cave class going "now, how did this happen?!" I will tell her you say hi
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Has she talked you into a KISS Rebreather yet?eliseaboo wrote:Truth. I have heard your name thrown around as well. I'm always amazed by the things she produces underwater, but I suppose practice makes perfect! And practice she DOES.John Rawlings wrote:Brrrrr! Hey! I just noticed the photo credit! I've been friends with Tammy for years! Please say hello to her for me when you next see her!
She does some GREAT underwater photography in the Great Lakes, and is one heckuva cave instructor as well!
- John
I'm afraid I'm one day going to find myself in her cave class going "now, how did this happen?!" I will tell her you say hi
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Ha! She knows that I work for the government I'll probably sign up for the rebreather workshop at Ghost Ships though. I dive with too many rebreather divers to NOT know the basics at this point...though I maintain they dive them just to keep up with meJohn Rawlings wrote:Has she talked you into a KISS Rebreather yet?eliseaboo wrote:Truth. I have heard your name thrown around as well. I'm always amazed by the things she produces underwater, but I suppose practice makes perfect! And practice she DOES.John Rawlings wrote:Brrrrr! Hey! I just noticed the photo credit! I've been friends with Tammy for years! Please say hello to her for me when you next see her!
She does some GREAT underwater photography in the Great Lakes, and is one heckuva cave instructor as well!
- John
I'm afraid I'm one day going to find myself in her cave class going "now, how did this happen?!" I will tell her you say hi
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that makes me cold just looking at the pics! but it does sound like fun, and something i'd like to try someday.
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Look at how beautiful that water looks. But man... that looks cold. No. Thank. You.
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This is the only time of the year we get some decent vis here! And it is nice. No boaters to share the water with, or fishermen. Here is a shot courtesy of Ethan Brodsky:
Re: So you think YOUR'RE tough??
Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
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Uh no thanks, note to self, never never never move to the mid west.eliseaboo wrote:Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
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That's it? why so short?eliseaboo wrote:Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
You all need better undies. We were doing hour+ in Canada last year (38F)
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I'm also a huge wuss. And poor...but even in nice fancy borrowed undies I wasn't comfy a few years back in 33 degree water. A large part of it is the surface conditions here. I always start the dive cold because it's cold and snowy and windy on the surface, and we all know there is no recovering from that...CaptnJack wrote:That's it? why so short?eliseaboo wrote:Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
You all need better undies. We were doing hour+ in Canada last year (38F)
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Good point, how far out on the lake is this hole?
Ours was ~80yds from the car so fairly spoiled
Ours was ~80yds from the car so fairly spoiled
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"Why so short?" asks the man in the heated vest.CaptnJack wrote:That's it? why so short?eliseaboo wrote:Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
You all need better undies. We were doing hour+ in Canada last year (38F)
I did a 47 minute dive last month in 34F water. It took 4 hours to get warm and I was exhausted for 24 hours. I'd say 15-20 minutes is plenty! But that's just me.
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Close to a mile I think. I've walked it before, hauling the gear on sleds. Done it a few times actually. But it's better when we have a 4 wheeler and a trailer! There are closer sites (hell, you could go pretty much anywhere around the entire lake), the problem is you can't drive out on the little peninsula to get to this particular site, and this is the place where all the sunken stuff is to look at.CaptnJack wrote:Good point, how far out on the lake is this hole?
Ours was ~80yds from the car so fairly spoiled
I hear ya Ben on the exhaustion thing! I did nearly the same dive as you, but in a wetsuit right before the ice formed here. I came out and buried myself in 2 sleeping bags and didn't speak to anyone for like half an hour. I'm a bit surprised they didn't call EMS for hypothermia, but it all turned out ok. If you can call me OK that is.
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Have not needed or used suit heat in 2yrs+ despite 1.5hr dives in 41F water. 400gm thinsulate sucks, weezle extreme+ good.airsix wrote:"Why so short?" asks the man in the heated vest.CaptnJack wrote:That's it? why so short?eliseaboo wrote:Anywhere between 34 and 40 degrees (though I've never personally seen it that high...) Average dive times for most divers are around 15-20 minutes, but for me it's more like 7-10. And around 3 hours of preparation.
You all need better undies. We were doing hour+ in Canada last year (38F)
I did a 47 minute dive last month in 34F water. It took 4 hours to get warm and I was exhausted for 24 hours. I'd say 15-20 minutes is plenty! But that's just me.
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You need a larger version of those huts the ice fisherman take out on the water with them. I suppose that would be a little big and ungainly.