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Cheng and I just got back from a five-day trip to Southern California. We flew into LAX last Thursday night and drove down to Redondo. Hooked up with a friend who lives down there the next morning for a dive at Veteran's Park at Redondo Beach. Ken told us it was a mudhole ... and so it was ... I'd call it Cove 1 on steroids, in that there wasn't much for structure, but just about every rock or shell had an occupant ... usually a fringehead or two. And the bottom was littered with eyes ... octopus eyes. Little reds were everywhere, with their eyes ... and sometimes their entire bodies sticking up out of the mud. We must've seen at least 40 of them. We did an hour-long dive, and I don't think our cameras ever stopped firing! Nice mudhole ... \:D/

Then it was a mad dash up to San Pedro to catch the noon ferry across the 26 miles of open water to Catalina Island. By 3 PM we were checked into our hotel and on our way over to the local dive park ... Casino Point. The town of Avalon on Catalina is very centralized, and everything's within easy walking distance. The park is small, but incredibly beautiful. I had gone there hoping to see a garibaldi ... these little orange fish that look rather like toys. Well, that's like someone coming to Seattle and hoping to spot a coffee shop ... they were everywhere! Boy did I feel like a tourist ... and like a tourist, I took the obligatory 200 or so garibaldi shots ... mostly tails. But the highlight of that dive was being approached by a giant sea bass ... that is one HUGE fish, easily six feet long and two or three times broader than me.

The next day we did three boat dives at various locations on the north side of the island. All of them were basically in the kelp forest (as was the dive park), and there was just a ton of things to see. Vis was between 30 and 50 feet, which gave us plenty of room to see things too. We saw more sea bass, and a few bat rays, as well as moray eels and a ton of lobsters.

On Sunday a couple of our friends came over to dive at the park with us. We did three dives ... one out to a wreck called the Valiant, which you need to get a permit to dive because it's sitting in about 100 feet of water in the mooring area (most of Avalon harbor is mooring area). It ws a spectacular dive, and on the way back we encountered this strange critter called a sea hare ... and it does look strangely like a rabbit (about the same size, too). I took a bunch of pictures, but there was a lot of surge stirring up the bottom, and none of them came out well. On the second dive, Cheng flooded her suit, and at the end of the dive she split her neck seal getting out of it. She was done diving for the trip. I made one more dive with my friends ... and got my first experience on a scooter! Claudette let me take her brand-new X-scooter for a spin through the kelp forest That was an incredible experience.

After the diving, we took the ferry back across to the mainland and drove about 50 miles south to Laguna. The next morning, I hooked up with some buddies to dive a place called Deadman's Reef. That was a fun dive. We had a surf entry, a 20-minute surface swim, surge, current, and a long surface swim back to the beack ... then we got to walk up about 100 stairs back to the road. Man, these guys are TOUGH ... it about wore me out! But we saw a lot, and got buzzed by a few sea lions ... the dive was a hoot! After the dive, Cheng and I drove up to Pasadena to spend a few hours with Tobin George, of Deep Sea Supply. He's got a fascinating tool shop, and I was surprised to learn how hand-built his gear really is ... no wonder it's such high-quality stuff ... it's all pretty much custom-made.

Flew home this morning ... and after five hectic days and nine dives, I'm feelin' a bit beat. So, since a picture's worth a thousand words ... here's about fifty-thousand words worth of photo show ... this is what you see in So Cal ...

http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/Nk4MV3cN

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Great pics Bob!

My sons and their spouses live in So Cal, San Fran and LA respectively, so I've been mulling over a trip down there. My son and his wife in LA were certified up here last Oct and haven't dove since.

Thoughts on beginner dives down there?

Did you borrow tanks from friends or rent from a shop?

Can you dive on your own on the Catalina Islands or do you need an operator? Are there decent shore dives?

Thanks for the report Bob!

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Oh, Oh, Ohhhhhh!

"I wanna Go!" :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


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Great Photo Show, Bob! =D>
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Tom Nic wrote:Great pics Bob!

My sons and their spouses live in So Cal, San Fran and LA respectively, so I've been mulling over a trip down there. My son and his wife in LA were certified up here last Oct and haven't dove since.

Thoughts on beginner dives down there?

Did you borrow tanks from friends or rent from a shop?

Can you dive on your own on the Catalina Islands or do you need an operator? Are there decent shore dives?

Thanks for the report Bob!

-Tom
Casino Point on Catalina Island is about as beginner as it gets. It's a dive park, so definitely a shore dive. No guide required ... or needed. Entry can be a bit dicey for Puget Sounders, since we're not used to entries and exits in waves ... the trick is to put your fins on about halfway down the stairs, walk down the stairs till you're in the water, then just push off and kick. Coming in, time the surge ... float on the ebb and kick like hell on the flood. When you get to the stairs, grab a handrail and stand up before the water ebbs ... or wait till the next wave and stand up on the flood. It's all timing ... with a few dives, you'll get the hang of it.

We borrowed tanks from a friend ... but getting them filled on Catalina Island proved problematic. There's two shops on the island ... and service ranges from poor to piss poor. One shop supposedly does nitrox fills, but when I dropped the tanks off for next-day pickup, they didn't even touch them till I got there the next day to pick them up ... then they hot-filled them with air to 3200 psi (the highest their compressor would go) ... and they cooled down to about 2700 by the time we got them in the water. Best to use LP tanks and air. We did, even though two or our three dives each day put us well into deco. From a diving perspective, Catalina Island is a third-world country ... but the diving is VERY good.

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Thanks Bob! That's the kind of info I needed!

So... I suppose you could bring your gear, get tanks on the mainland, take the ferry, do 2 or 3 dives at Casino Point with a couple of newb divers, then take the ferry back?

Let's go Keith!!
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Great pics Bob! I will have to get down there some day.
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I'm ready when you are!
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Tom Nic wrote:Thanks Bob! That's the kind of info I needed!

So... I suppose you could bring your gear, get tanks on the mainland, take the ferry, do 2 or 3 dives at Casino Point with a couple of newb divers, then take the ferry back?

Let's go Keith!!
There's limits to what you can bring on the ferry ... one tank, and only as much luggage as you can get from the parking lot to the ferry on a single trip (it's a walk-on ferry). Cheng and I got creative ... strapping tanks and weights to the top of our rolling duffles. But it was a strenuous haul up the ramps.

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Those pictures sure brought back memories. Catalina Island is probably my favorite West Coast dive site. Well maybe in the top 5. For three years I did what I called my "High dive low Drag" dive trip there. ? Take one back pack for cloths and dive gear. Leave Portland on a Friday at 6 am be in the water at Catalina by 3, dive my brains out (I have done as many as 10 dives in one trip) fly home on Monday. I think I need to go back. Thanks Bob.

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There are good boats running day trips to Catalina. Sundiver is one, don't know their address. Plan on an early AM departure.

IMO the one thing you can skip at Catalina is a can light. All the life <40 or 50ft by and large and the sun just blows out any light signals.

See if you can get a boat going to the spot with the Giant Sea Bass. I forget the divesite name but its a particluar portion of the shoreline only accessible by boat. Those fish are really cool. Despite being enormous (500lbs) they are very shy and will hide behind a single kelp frond.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rjack321/al ... 6568559/20
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CaptnJack wrote:There are good boats running day trips to Catalina. Sundiver is one, don't know their address. Plan on an early AM departure.

IMO the one thing you can skip at Catalina is a can light. All the life <40 or 50ft by and large and the sun just blows out any light signals.

See if you can get a boat going to the spot with the Giant Sea Bass. I forget the divesite name but its a particluar portion of the shoreline only accessible by boat. Those fish are really cool. Despite being enormous (500lbs) they are very shy and will hide behind a single kelp frond.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rjack321/al ... 6568559/20
That was the site they took us to that they referred to as "Sea Bass" ... he said there were at least a dozen in residence. Cheng and I saw three of them on that one dive. But they were all at around 90 feet, just below the thermocline.

We found our lights useful for looking under rocks ... especially for spotting bugs and eels. And at Casino Point, the most interesting things we found were on the wrecks ... the Su Jack is at 65-80 feet and the Valiant is at 75-95 feet.

There were tons of cool things to see in the shallows, but the Navanax and FedEx nudis all seemed to be deeper than that. Without a light, I doubt we'd have even noticed them.

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500lbs? Damn... that's a big fish.
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I can't remember the boat we took down there a couple years ago (was kinda so-so anyway). But all our diving was pretty shallow. If I were going back on the same trip I'd just take my camera and skip the can light. Your dives sound deeper than where we were taken. The sea bass dive was one of the deepest. We also did a pinnacle to ~90ft. Forget the name. But it was very well lite by the AM sun. GUess its kinda hit or miss on the lighting.
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Sounder wrote:500lbs? Damn... that's a big fish.
Think big *ss tuna sized!
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Yeah - I'm picturing the rodeo that would ensue after I put a shaft in one... it'd have to be in shallow water - that fish could take you deep in a hurry! I've seen video of tuna spearfishing where the spear is connected to a line of buoys. What a rush. :pale:
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I checked my log book and the dive site I saw 6 Sea Bass was Italian Gardens. That was the first year they came back and were starting to show up again. The spear fishermen had really taken their toll and they are protected. Way to cool to shoot.

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That's it "Italian Gardens"!

Yes the Sea Bass were almost extripated by fisherman. Totally prptected now - zero take. I suspect you'd have a ****load of divers reporting you to fish and game if they saw you take one at that site. When I was there a few years ago there were 3 day boats and 2 overnight charters diving the site, maybe 80 people total in the 1.5 hours I was there.
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Beautiful pics Bob! I see I need to schedule a trip to see my sister in L.A. soon. :)
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Beautiful pics, love the nudi shots. Can I ask what type of camera you're using? Catalina Islands is a must do on my list.

Thanks for sharing
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Octoloco wrote:Beautiful pics, love the nudi shots. Can I ask what type of camera you're using? Catalina Islands is a must do on my list.

Thanks for sharing
Same camera as about half the folks on this board are using ... Casio Exilim Z1000. Several of of us saw Calvin's camera and were so impressed we bought one for ourselves ... it's a neat little point-n-shoot.

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Thanks for the info. I might have to pick one up for my next trip....
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Hmmm, Wondering what it'll be like this winter.. I'm planning on visiting the folks this Christmas and a few days down in So Cal and I am going to want to do some diving down there...

Hopefully they don't all wus out during the winter. Oh it's too cold.. It's only 75 degrees outside.. I can say that because I am a So. Cal native and so I know how wimpy to cold they all are.. Hopefully the dive boats will still be running on Catalina..

Great pictures Bob!
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