Is the vis as bad as it looks from here?

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:37 am

Let me whine.

I'm sitting in my office, and Elliott Bay looks positively brown this morning. I know vis has been crappy lately, anyone been braving Cove 2?

Edmonds was craptastic this past weekend, I understand the Oil Dock was also pea soup.

Penopolypants · Post by **Penopolypants** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:31 am

Redondo on Monday was dreadful...I didn't see the bottom until right before I ran into it. It didn't improve much at depth, either.

Hellava way to come back from warm blue water...

Tangfish · Post by **Tangfish** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:14 am

I guess I'll find out soon enough!

thelawgoddess · Post by **thelawgoddess** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:53 pm

you guys aren't providing much motivation here! ](*,)

i expect the mill creek pool to have unlimited vis on sunday, though. $\:D/$

Tangfish · Post by **Tangfish** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:05 pm

thelawgoddess wrote:i expect the mill creek pool to have unlimited vis on sunday, though. $\:D/$

limited only by the walls of the pool

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:28 pm

dsteding wrote:Let me whine.

I'm sitting in my office, and Elliott Bay looks positively brown this morning. I know vis has been crappy lately, anyone been braving Cove 2?

Edmonds was craptastic this past weekend, I understand the Oil Dock was also pea soup.

Not bad below 70 or so- maaaaybe 8-10 feet. Above that, more like 4-6 feet.

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:47 pm

Nailer99 wrote:
Not bad below 70 or so- maaaaybe 8-10 feet. Above that, more like 4-6 feet.

It is indeed a sorry state of affairs when "not bad" is associated with 8-10 feet.

I love summer topside, hate it under.

lamont · Post by **lamont** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:08 am

dsteding wrote:
Nailer99 wrote:
Not bad below 70 or so- maaaaybe 8-10 feet. Above that, more like 4-6 feet.
It is indeed a sorry state of affairs when "not bad" is associated with 8-10 feet.

I love summer topside, hate it under.

it should get much better when it stops raining late-july...

gcbryan · Post by **gcbryan** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:06 am

I get's much better when you get in your car and drive

Sund Rock had 20' or more viz on Tuesday and last weekend Sekiu had 35' viz along with Crescent Lake's 50' viz.

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:46 am

dsteding wrote:
Nailer99 wrote:
Not bad below 70 or so- maaaaybe 8-10 feet. Above that, more like 4-6 feet.
It is indeed a sorry state of affairs when "not bad" is associated with 8-10 feet.

I love summer topside, hate it under.

Ah, quit whining! Some of my more favorite dives have been in 8-10' vis- less than 5' sucks- I don't like that much, but this is what seperates us from the warm water wussy divers- sharpens your buddy and navigation skills, among other things. I had a really fun dive down on the boundary line last night- everything down there that I've seen 100 times already looks new and mysterious when is suddenly appears out of the murk. We had a great time!

BASSMAN · Post by **BASSMAN** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:03 pm

Right on Nailer!

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:00 pm

Nailer99 wrote:
Ah, quit whining! Some of my more favorite dives have been in 8-10' vis- less than 5' sucks- I don't like that much, but this is what seperates us from the warm water wussy divers- sharpens your buddy and navigation skills, among other things. I had a really fun dive down on the boundary line last night- everything down there that I've seen 100 times already looks new and mysterious when is suddenly appears out of the murk. We had a great time!

Agreed-I'd just rather start to hone my scooter skills in slightly better conditions . . .

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:33 pm

dsteding wrote:
Nailer99 wrote:
Ah, quit whining! Some of my more favorite dives have been in 8-10' vis- less than 5' sucks- I don't like that much, but this is what seperates us from the warm water wussy divers- sharpens your buddy and navigation skills, among other things. I had a really fun dive down on the boundary line last night- everything down there that I've seen 100 times already looks new and mysterious when is suddenly appears out of the murk. We had a great time!
Agreed-I'd just rather start to hone my scooter skills in slightly better conditions . . .

I can defenitely understand your desire to not plow into the I-beams with the throttle wide open! ](*,)

I wasn't factoring speed into the equation, obviously.

Tom Nic · Post by **Tom Nic** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:24 pm

Sund Rock was great today. I expected crummy viz, but at the low low tide viz was 25'!

Very nice. Is was so cool to be floating along the wall and see the schools of Coppers hovering out "in space"...

By the 3rd dive tide was high and viz went in the toilet...

8' or less, mostly less.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:32 pm

We could live in Spokane and get to look at perch

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:07 am

CaptnJack wrote:We could live in Spokane and get to look at perch

And beer cans . . .

We diving tomorrow? What time?

LCF · Post by **LCF** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:10 pm

We dove Cove 2 tonight, and I was delighted to see that the viz has finally become something reasonable. Now, we spent the first half of the dive at 20 feet, where it wasn't fantastic, but the water was absolutely LOADED with egg-yolk jellies, as well as moon jellies and comb jellies. But at depth, we probably had 20 feet of viz, which was really nice to see. The big exchange made for some strange water movement, especially in the shallows. At one point, we felt like we were caught in a huge windstorm, as tons of sea lettuce flew past us. But all in all, it was the best dive I've done in Cove 2 in over a month.

A bunch of penpoint gunnels, a grunt sculpin, probably 50 egg-yolk jellies. And we saw all that on a skills dive, where we weren't even looking.

mattwave · Post by **mattwave** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:25 am

CaptnJack wrote:We could live in Spokane and get to look at perch

Ahhh come on, poor Spokanians, I was just out there last weekend, and to my suprise; they have some good lake diving. Cool wrecks at recreational depths, and some deeper ones too.

Sounder · Post by **Sounder** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:14 am

I was in Vegas - the view was amazing... oh wait, you're talking about the vis!

I always enjoy the scenery in Vegas.

747pilot · Post by **747pilot** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:35 am

gcbryan wrote:I get's much better when you get in your car and drive

Sund Rock had 20' or more viz on Tuesday and last weekend Sekiu had 35' viz along with Crescent Lake's 50' viz.

Or fly.... Molokini vis was 100+ feet last week. Father's day at Cove 2 was the worst I've ever seen it. Somewhere between 6" and 6' depending on where you were. Didn't help that the tide was WAY out. Note to self; check tide tables.

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:38 pm

747pilot wrote: Or fly.... Molokini vis was 100+ feet last week.

I was there in May, easily 150+ feet. Absolutely amazing. Ascents in the middle of the crater and you could see the boat way over there, the rim of the crater, and the bottom looked to be 10 feet away eventhough you were in 50 feet of water.

I had to remind myself to breathe through my regulator because it just plain didn't feel like I was underwater.

747pilot · Post by **747pilot** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:17 pm

dsteding wrote:
747pilot wrote: Or fly.... Molokini vis was 100+ feet last week.
I was there in May, easily 150+ feet. Absolutely amazing. Ascents in the middle of the crater and you could see the boat way over there, the rim of the crater, and the bottom looked to be 10 feet away eventhough you were in 50 feet of water.

I had to remind myself to breathe through my regulator because it just plain didn't feel like I was underwater.

We were on the western edge. I was kind of surprised how few fish I saw. I spoke with the owner of a dive shop who had a photo taken there a few years ago of a Great White. Said the divers first thought it was a small whale at first because of the girth. They hunkered down on the bottom and snapped the picture. I guess when the strobe went off, it turn towards them then changed it's mind and left. Bet they were thinking "Oh THAT was a really bad idea."

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:09 am

747pilot wrote:
We were on the western edge. I was kind of surprised how few fish I saw. I spoke with the owner of a dive shop who had a photo taken there a few years ago of a Great White. Said the divers first thought it was a small whale at first because of the girth. They hunkered down on the bottom and snapped the picture. I guess when the strobe went off, it turn towards them then changed it's mind and left. Bet they were thinking "Oh THAT was a really bad idea."

Very cool. There was a study done out of the Farallones a few years back using radio tags. The sharks there would range far and wide and then return, I wonder if it was one of the ones that is usually off the California coast.

We were inside the crater because we had some people doing their OW checkout dives (that just isn't right). Lots of life in there, including a pregnant white tip that cruised right over our heads.

Sounder · Post by **Sounder** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:19 am

Have you read the "Devil's Teeth?" It's a true story of a reporter who spends time on the Farallons with the white shark studying people. Good read - I have it if you'd like to borrow it. Tom Nic just finished it.

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:22 am

We were inside the crater because we had some people doing their OW checkout dives (that just isn't right). Lots of life in there, including a pregnant white tip that cruised right over our heads.

A few years ago I was with family in Maui, and I did one of the combined snorkel/Dive boats as I was the only diver.

On the way out to the crater I was chatting with one of the other divers, who had about 3 dives under his belt after OW. He proceeded to tell me how he had gotten certified in Maui, and felt that he was a really good diver because he had gotten certified in the local ocean, which was the "Real Deal". I'm not sure what he meant, but from his tone of voice I decided to buddy up with someone else....

(He spent most of his dive doing a really good impression of a yo-yo, 70fsw-0fsw

)

The life inside the crater is amazing though, like swimming in a fishbowl. I want to return and do the back wall sometime.

Jake

Northwest Dive Club

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