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Fukushima theory gaining traction?

Post by Jeremy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:27 pm

Looking at this prediction of waterborne radiation hitting the US West coast in 2014:
http://t.nbcnews.com/science/fukushimas ... 8C11050755

It looks like the PNW is dead in the crosshairs.

Then today I read that amateur Geiger counter readings in San Fransisco are way above safe levels.


Days after a YouTube video emerged showing background radiation at a Coastside beach reaching over 150 micro-REM per hour, Health officials in San Mateo County confirmed the spike but said they were “befuddled” as to its cause.

However, officials dismissed the possibility that the readings could be linked to Fukushima radiation reaching the west coast despite forecasts by experts last summer that radioactive particles from Fukushima would reach U.S. coastal waters in 2014

The video shows a man measuring radiation readings at different spots on a beach south of Pillar Point Harbor. Background radiation in the areas immediately surrounding the beach are normal, but once the man approaches the water itself, the radiation spikes to at least 500 per cent safe levels and the Geiger counter’s alarm goes off.


http://www.infowars.com/has-fukushimas- ... alifornia/

I was skeptical of this theory as a cause for the starfish disintegrations....but now think there might be some legs to it.

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Post by AdrianSmith » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:37 pm

No. No no no no no. Again, no.

Please try to exercise critical thinking and look at SCIENCE, not pseudobabble and superstition.

http://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/10/28/mor ... -debunked/

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Post by AdrianSmith » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:00 pm

And this:

http://boingboing.net/2014/01/06/no-fuk ... ing-o.html

HARD science reporting that demonstrates that the fearmongers writing stories about the radiation dangers to the Wes coast from Fukushima are full of garbage.

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Post by Jeremy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:40 pm

AdrianSmith wrote:No. No no no no no. Again, no.


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Post by KneeDeep » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:05 pm

Jeremy wrote:Opposite day on the when Harry met Sally set?


Agree!!!!
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Post by lynchpit2 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:50 pm

I sent a message to a company, Stanford Dosimetry, asking about their Dosimeters to wear while diving to see if there was any radiation in the water I was diving in.
Here was his reaction to the inquiry.

"Nope, it doesn't. (have radiation)
Our badges will pick up external radiation dose as low as 10 mrem (annual safe limit = 5000)
There is radioactivity in the Pacific. The contribution from Fukushima is a tiny fraction of what is there naturally (and from weapons testing) already. Labs can measure the signature elements from Fukushima, but there is no measurable increase in dose.
Wearing a badge would be a waste of money. All states are participating in monitoring increases in radioactivity and dose from Fukushima. You can find more from the NRC, or WA dept of env.

Sincerely,
Neill Stanford,CHP"

This is from someone that could make a lot of money from people like me wanting to test the area I am in for radiation. You would think he would be all over taking this as an opportunity to line his pockets, instead he say's, you would be wasting your money.

Then there is this story. http://www.infowars.com/1400-radiation- ... sco-beach/

In it they tested samples of soil in the area that had the high radiation readings and found no evidence of cesium-137, that would need to be present for the radiation to have come from Fukushima.

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Post by Jeremy » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:53 pm

Interesting.

Sounds like a major cover up is taking place...

It doesn't matter if starfish start dying by the millions and that we are downstream from a major nuclear catastrophe...the sheeple will just keep watching the teevee, drinking their fluoride water, and chowing down on their GMO corn imo..

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Post by Desert Diver » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:39 pm

Jeremy wrote:Interesting.

Sounds like a major cover up is taking place...

It doesn't matter if starfish start dying by the millions and that we are downstream from a major nuclear catastrophe...the sheeple will just keep watching the teevee, drinking their fluoride water, and chowing down on their GMO corn imo..


So...get a dosimeter, dive and tell us what the readings are.

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Post by fishb0y » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:49 pm

Gee, I wonder who I should believe? The guy who's business would profit from a Fukushima hysteria, but chooses not to; or the guy who would personally profit from a Fukushima hysteria, and throws gasoline on the flames?

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Post by cofford » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:20 am

If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.
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Post by Norris » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:50 am

cofford wrote:If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.


Oh GREAT!!!!

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Post by Jeremy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:32 pm

cofford wrote:If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.


lol

Smoke detectors and bananas don't kill millions of starfish bro

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Post by AdrianSmith » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:36 pm

Jeremy wrote:
cofford wrote:If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.


lol

Smoke detectors and bananas don't kill millions of starfish bro


The sea star (not "starfish" - they're not fish) dieoff last happened in 1983 and 1984. Are you going to claim that Fukushima radiation time travels as well?

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Post by Norris » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:38 pm

AdrianSmith wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
cofford wrote:If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.


lol

Smoke detectors and bananas don't kill millions of starfish bro


The sea star (not "starfish" - they're not fish) dieoff last happened in 1983 and 1984. Are you going to claim that Fukushima radiation time travels as well?

-Adrian


yes

*throws bananas at time machine
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Post by CaptnJack » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:59 pm

Norris wrote:
AdrianSmith wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
cofford wrote:If you're worried about Fukushima, you'd better take down the smoke detectors in your house, move to a concrete-free building, and stop eating bananas. They all have orders of magnitude more radioactivity than you'll ever get from Fukushima.


lol

Smoke detectors and bananas don't kill millions of starfish bro


The sea star (not "starfish" - they're not fish) dieoff last happened in 1983 and 1984. Are you going to claim that Fukushima radiation time travels as well?

-Adrian


yes

*throws bananas at time machine


yes

* blows smoke at smoke detector
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Post by cofford » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:05 pm

Jeremy wrote:
lol

Smoke detectors and bananas don't kill millions of starfish bro


Neither does Fukushima. Can you cite any scientific study that shows sea stars are unusually sensitive to radiation, so that mass die-off could occur without seeing any stress in other animals?
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Post by Jeremy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:38 pm

Science? The science says it isn't bacteria, isn't viral, isn't fungal. I'm ruling out bananas and smoke detectors imo. I'll go with huge nuclear accident that was due to hit our shores at this time for $1000 Alex.

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Post by spatman » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:02 pm

Jeremy wrote:Science? The science says it isn't bacteria, isn't viral, isn't fungal. I'm ruling out bananas and smoke detectors imo. I'll go with huge nuclear accident that was due to hit our shores at this time for $1000 Alex.



I think the sea star die off is due to the legalization of marijuana and easy access to medical marijuana. More stoners means more bong owners. More bongs means more bong water down the drain and flowing into our oceans. More bong water in the ocean means sea stars are getting wasted.

If it ain't fungal, viral, bacterial, or radiation, then it has to be the bong water, brah.
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Post by cofford » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:06 pm

Jeremy wrote:Science? The science says it isn't bacteria, isn't viral, isn't fungal. I'm ruling out bananas and smoke detectors imo. I'll go with huge nuclear accident that was due to hit our shores at this time for $1000 Alex.


Ooohhh, I'm sorry, that's incorrect. Radiological causes would be extremely easy to detect.

http://deepseanews.com/2013/12/three-re ... -syndrome/
http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the- ... a-impacts/
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Post by Norris » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:45 pm

cofford wrote:Ooohhh, I'm sorry, that's incorrect. Radiological causes would be extremely easy to detect.

http://deepseanews.com/2013/12/three-re ... -syndrome/
http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the- ... a-impacts/


Good articles, allow me to paste....

Are high radiation readings being observed on the west coast of the United States? No doubt you seen the video of a man in San Francisco, California using a Geiger Counter showing high radiation readings on the beach. Dan Sythe is the CEO of International Medcom Inc. that develops and produces radiation detection instruments and systems. Dan has a list of impressive credentials on everything Geiger Counter related. At the Geiger Counter Bulletin, he tests the same California sand and compares it to readings from Fukushima. Take Home: The radiation signature in the coastal sands is normal and is not the same as from Fukushima. Favorite Quote: “The radionuclides are in the NORM class of radioactive substances, not from Fukushima. NORM stands for Naturally Occurring Radioactive Material…If the sand were contaminated by radiation from Fukushima it would show Cesium 137 [it does not].” Super Favorite Bonus Quote: “The radiation level [in the sand] is elevated, but roughly equivalent to some granite counter top material from Brazil.”
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Post by Jeremy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:44 pm

lol, Mods...think I should win some sort of award for this thread imo

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Post by Matt S. » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:28 pm

You couldn't cover up something like our West Coast getting blasted by radiation. There are countless people with the scientific training and equipment needed to show if that was happening. When a university, for example, shows results that other institutes can reproduce, then we have something to discuss.

There's nothing magic about radiation and the technology for measuring it is extremely well understood. I doubt that there's a conspiracy of silence extending to every West Coast undergrad physics lab.

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Post by Norris » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:56 pm

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Re: Fukushima theory gaining traction?

Post by AdrianSmith » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:11 am

Yup. Fakey Mcfakerson. :)

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