Truth Aquatics Conception Boat Fire Tragedy

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Re: Truth Aquatics Conception Boat Fire Tragedy

Post by BillZ » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:22 pm

dlh wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:18 pm
Speaking of lithium battery chargers: I've been reading up on this and found that Drones use a particularly volatile battery type called Lithium Polymer. This is different from the Lithium Ion batteries we find in Lights and Cameras. It seems that they are so volatile that there are Dozens of products on Amazon, etc for fireproof charging and storage containers to limit the impact of a charging fire. Do any of our drone enthusiasts know about this?

I'm going to order one of these containers (like a soft side cooler made of fiberglass fabric and foil)[/url] for home & travel use for for my LiON batteries to be extra safe. And never charge any of this stuff when I'm not present and awake...
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This is a huge tragedy and we may never know the cause of the fire on the Conception but if some good comes out of this it would be the realization that LiON batteries ARE NOT your run-of-the-mill Duracell. A bit of salt water, unprotected batteries, a problem charger, etc. can all cause LiON batteries to ignite and it's almost impossible to put them out.

A few years ago we were out scootering Alki Fishing Reef from my boat when one of the scooters flooded. We brought the scooter onto to boat and the LiON battery started belching flames. Luckily we saw it soon enough and were able to clip the scooter off to a line and throw it overboard. It "boiled" in the water for 45 minutes as we towed it back to the boat launch.

I've seen it on every live-a-board I've been on... The charging table is full so people plug their chargers into outlets in the salon, galley, their room etc.(I'm guilty of this). After a long dive day many folks leave their batteries charging overnight unattended. I know in light of this tragedy I'll be buying the case Dave posted above and be cautious of where and when I charge my batteries.
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Re: Truth Aquatics Conception Boat Fire Tragedy

Post by Tangfish » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:29 pm

I have those fire cases for individual LiPo drone batteries as they’re required for any batteries not installed in the drone while flying. They are a different kind of battery that is volatile and has a shorter track record than lithium.

Also as much a rip-off as they usually are I never use aftermarket chargers, cables and plugs (okay I have some micro-usb ones I don’t remember where they came from), including for phones. I started doing that after that poor flight attendant died while going to unplug a knockoff iPhone square plug.

Recently some LOBs enacted policies of no battery charging in rooms. I think it’s a good idea.

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Re: Truth Aquatics Conception Boat Fire Tragedy

Post by H20doctor » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:12 pm

Yeah that was my first thought about that situation was charging station had to be the culprit...
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Post by Penopolypants » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:01 pm

I'm not surprised by the latest legal proceedings, but that doesn't negate my outrage.

Our house burned down when I was a child, and even as young as I was I remember my parents talking about the fights with the insurance company. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but we did lose everything, and my parents eventually had to sue. This was in the early '80's, so this is by no means a new phenomenon. Few people win in these scenarios, except the attorneys, and I don't blame them, because they are fighting to protect their clients.

This has me thinking hard about many things, but I will reserve my final judgement until the final judgement. Out of all the things we worry about regarding safety when diving, dying in your sleep isn't high on the list. Be safe, y'all.
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Post by stphnmartin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 pm

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Re: Truth Aquatics Conception Boat Fire Tragedy

Post by Penopolypants » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:25 am

Interesting to see that the engine compartment didn't appear to be the source, and it sounds like the crew did all they could.

The only two exits for the berths went into the same area (not news, I know), but that will be something I look for the next time I'm on such a boat.
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Post by stphnmartin » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:03 pm

Apparently they were required to have a night watch per their Certificate of Inspection, issued by the Coast Guard.

https://www.apnews.com/f83f169aa80e4deba3d57329943cf3e1
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Post by derekcs » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:39 pm

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