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I'm betting that 3 to 1 drive vehicles with autos. Lets see.
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I voted stick. Wife's van is auto, but all my other vehicles are stick.
For an off-road vehicle or the family van I'm fine with an auto, but a "driver's car" NEEDS direct manual gear selection.
Why does a car in a performance scenario need manual control? Simple: Because cars don't have eyes! For example: When you pass the apex of a curve and begin to roll on the power an automatic will NEVER be in the correct gear. It will always be in a higher than optimal gear. At that point it will downshift as it plays catch-up. If it had eyes and could see ahead it would have already been in the optimal gear when you needed it to be. Get a stick and you give your transmission eyes.
I love to autocross (sanctioned road racing against the clock) and people who try it with automatic-tranny cars often get frustrated because things are happening too quickly for the tranny to keep up effectively.
Now the perfect car would have a stick when I'm racing or driving alone, and it would have an auto when I'm on a date or trying to bring home takeout with 3 drinks and only 2 cupholders.
-Ben
For an off-road vehicle or the family van I'm fine with an auto, but a "driver's car" NEEDS direct manual gear selection.
Why does a car in a performance scenario need manual control? Simple: Because cars don't have eyes! For example: When you pass the apex of a curve and begin to roll on the power an automatic will NEVER be in the correct gear. It will always be in a higher than optimal gear. At that point it will downshift as it plays catch-up. If it had eyes and could see ahead it would have already been in the optimal gear when you needed it to be. Get a stick and you give your transmission eyes.
I love to autocross (sanctioned road racing against the clock) and people who try it with automatic-tranny cars often get frustrated because things are happening too quickly for the tranny to keep up effectively.
Now the perfect car would have a stick when I'm racing or driving alone, and it would have an auto when I'm on a date or trying to bring home takeout with 3 drinks and only 2 cupholders.
-Ben
You can always try a triptronic tranny.......Not quite the same as full manual, but close.
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It's close, but not the same. It will still 'intervene' when it thinks you're not doing something in your best interest. When I say 'give me 3rd gear' I mean give me 3rd gear right this very instant, not when the computer decides that the data from the wheel speed sensors, intake manifold pressure sensor, throttle position sensor and lateral acceleration gyro all say it's ok to give it to me. If you've ever driven a tiptronic or other 'manu-matic' on the track you will know what I'm talking about. I don't like transmissions that argue with me.cardiver wrote:You can always try a triptronic tranny.......Not quite the same as full manual, but close.
Now that said, there are certain cars I wouldn't take any other way. I'd love to have an Audi S6 with a tip for example. But I wouldn't be driving it on the track either. I would also prefer a truck with an auto as well - not a tip - just a plain auto, because in a truck I just want to haul stuff and not fuss around. : )
-Ben
I think you're posting on the wrong website. This is a forum for diving. The forum for various tranny types, and those who love them, is in your other browser.cardiver wrote:You can always try a triptronic tranny...
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I mostly drive a motorcycle. But my dive van is an automatic. I had sworn for years that I would never buy an automatic because I really like to drive. But when you find a used vehicle that's perfect for your needs except for that one small fact, what choice do you have?
Now that I've been driving it for 3 years, I'll never go back. It's so much nicer on my knees when I'm stuck in traffic to not have to shift and shift and shift.
We're on the list for a Smart Car which we should be able to get by the first of the year, we hope. That car is coming with Paddle Shifters on the steering wheel. Very cool.
Now that I've been driving it for 3 years, I'll never go back. It's so much nicer on my knees when I'm stuck in traffic to not have to shift and shift and shift.
We're on the list for a Smart Car which we should be able to get by the first of the year, we hope. That car is coming with Paddle Shifters on the steering wheel. Very cool.
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I'm not really surprised. Look around. We're a pretty odd group (no offense. I embrace my eccentric nature). You have to guess that a group of people so fascinated with amateur marine exploration that they hang out daily on an electronic bulletin board to talk about it are going be a few standard deviations from the mean so to speak.Seth T. wrote:Yeah, I'm thoroughly impressed. I thought I was the only one that still drives a stick!
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Hey, wait a minute! Uhm, what does your wife think about your dates? And vice-versa? How do you work that out? Isn't that rather dangerous? Inquiring minds want to know!airsix wrote:I voted stick. Wife's van is auto, but all my other vehicles are stick.
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Now the perfect car would have a stick when I'm racing or driving alone, and it would have an auto when I'm on a date or trying to bring home takeout with 3 drinks and only 2 cupholders.
-Ben
Both my vehicles are auto. My truck is the first one I've ever owned that wasn't manual and I don't ever plan on buying another manual.
I HATE driving so I guess it's a good thing I live in a place where there's not much place to go.
It's 11 miles from my house in the "valley" to downtown Juneau. If I didn't work downtown, I'd probably go 3 months without coming down here. As it is, the idea of driving "all the way to town" sucks!
Dave
I HATE driving so I guess it's a good thing I live in a place where there's not much place to go.
It's 11 miles from my house in the "valley" to downtown Juneau. If I didn't work downtown, I'd probably go 3 months without coming down here. As it is, the idea of driving "all the way to town" sucks!
Dave
What does she think about my dates? Well, I hope she enjoys them! I sure do. I open all the doors for her, try to be a good listener, tell a few jokes... It usually seems to go pretty well. In fact, I'm picking her up tonight at 5:30.Sea of Green wrote:Hey, wait a minute! Uhm, what does your wife think about your dates? And vice-versa? How do you work that out? Isn't that rather dangerous? Inquiring minds want to know!
-Ben
Well, ok. Being single, I think of a "date" as a flesh and blood person, as in "I have a cute date tonight". Eventually, your "date" may become your wife. After marriage, she's no longer your "date", she's your wife and you're just "going out". If that sounds strange, that's ok, I'm a strange guy.airsix wrote:What does she think about my dates? Well, I hope she enjoys them! I sure do. I open all the doors for her, try to be a good listener, tell a few jokes... It usually seems to go pretty well. In fact, I'm picking her up tonight at 5:30.Sea of Green wrote:Hey, wait a minute! Uhm, what does your wife think about your dates? And vice-versa? How do you work that out? Isn't that rather dangerous? Inquiring minds want to know!
-Ben
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Hmmmph ... young'ins ...
... the only dates I get anymore are the ones you buy in a plastic container at Costco ...
My Element has a 5-speed manual transmission, BTW. I test drove both auto and manual, and decided I preferred the manual ...
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... the only dates I get anymore are the ones you buy in a plastic container at Costco ...
My Element has a 5-speed manual transmission, BTW. I test drove both auto and manual, and decided I preferred the manual ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
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Back to the subject at hand, transmissions. I drive a stick because they are more economical on gas, don't rob power and the buying price of the vehicle is less. Plus replacing a clutch is much easier on the bank account than rebuilding an automatic. I still have nightmares of my old 64 Chevy Impala with that embarrasing 2-speed "slush box" automatic.
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