Pony bottle help

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Re: Pony bottle help

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nwscubamom wrote:I'd like to sling the pony. Is there any good reason to sling it from the left side? Currently that's where my camera is, and I'm really concerned about the camera clanking into the pony and scratching (or worse!) the housing. My gauges are also on the left side, and it just seems like TOO much stuff on the left side. So any reason it can't be on the right?
if it's slung on your right side, will it interfere with deploying your octo? do you use a long hose or a regular length octo hose?
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Well- some BC's, you can sling a pony, and some, you can't. A 19 is pretty small, though- you probably couldn't actually attach it like a regular stage bottle.
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For a 19 it may be easier to clamp it to the main tank?

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Janna, the reason people with a BP/W sling it on the left is because usually the long hose is on the right, along with the canlight, so there is no waist D-ring over there. Also, a standard valve has the handle on the Right (when mounted traditionally) so if you want the 1st stage up and the valve handle on the outside where it's much easier to manipulate with your same side hand, you want it mounted on the left.

If you're just diving recreationally in a traditional BC, as long as it's not going to interfere with something else on the right side, (light or octo) you should be able to make it work.

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We're missing the obvious here... Janna needs a bp/w, and a hearty can-light. That'll clear things up.

Ok Janna... would you entertain TRYING one, once (ok, maybe twice if the first time it isn't adjusted right)? :angelblue: :blackblink:

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Hahaha, you just can't STAND the fact I dive in one of those old fashioned strokey type jacket BCDs, can you?? :neener:
I think you're basically trying to tell me: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!
I guess I'm down for trying one out sometime. But a can light?!!?

Thanks for the pony bottle help...maybe I'll try moving my camera to the right side....then the pony can be on the left. The most logical reasoning I read was to keep the reg portion facing upward. Sounds good to me...I'll get this thing put together and see what happens.

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Janna, I think it's great you're going to try out a Hogarthian configuration. Maybe it won't be your cup of tea, but it just might be. Put it to the test. I also highly recommend trying it out with someone who can guide you through setup and adjustments. I got some of the best tweaking advice after I had over 100 dives on mine, so it's definitely worth starting out with someone who can help you adjust, watch you in the water, and help you dial it in. This can make all the difference in the world and is the only way to really give it a fair shot. Trust me; it's worth the effort.
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nwscubamom wrote:Hahaha, you just can't STAND the fact I dive in one of those old fashioned strokey type jacket BCDs, can you?? :neener:
I think you're basically trying to tell me: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!
I guess I'm down for trying one out sometime. But a can light?!!?

Thanks for the pony bottle help...maybe I'll try moving my camera to the right side....then the pony can be on the left. The most logical reasoning I read was to keep the reg portion facing upward. Sounds good to me...I'll get this thing put together and see what happens.

- Janna
Can light? But of course! Since it'll be on your right side, it's yet another reason to have your slung bottle on the left. Once you go to a can light, you simply can't go back. I have one of those for you to try too! Just think of how convenient it'll be to have your hands completely free while you do surveys and still have your light in-hand! Think of all the increased critters you'll see with more light output! :laughing3:

So... when can I meet you in Brinnon? :angelblue:

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nwscubamom wrote:Thanks for the pony bottle help...maybe I'll try moving my camera to the right side....then the pony can be on the left. The most logical reasoning I read was to keep the reg portion facing upward.
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I run my camera on my right chest D-ring and when I sling a bottle I put it on my left side. It works very well - especially since I'm right handed. The bottle floats there "out of the way" under my left arm, my light on my left hand, and I use right hand for camera or whatever else needs to happen. I can clip off the light head if I want to get it out of the way.

I have a Zeagle Tech bcd, which I bought like most newer divers because it was what the shop sold and seemed like the best option they had, and so it seemed like the thing to do when I'm buying gear and no one is around to explain options that they don't have a financial interest in. I actually lucked out to a degree, first of all because it's a "wing" design not a wrap around (my ample frame and wrap arounds just don't mix), and once I started putting weight in the back trim pockets I had no trouble surface swimming / floating (at first the wing and it's back inflate design pushed me face first into the water - very unpleasant). It's a good BCD - kind of a hybrid, and it works fine, with enough D-rings and them being positioned where I can sling a bottle without it being too weird.

Eventually (read cheap, broke, etc etc) I will switch to a BP/Wing configuration. My reasons are NOT that it is cool or peer pressure :tomnic: (getting people off my back). Here's a couple of my reasons - 1) I'll drop a few pounds as it takes less to sink than the traditional BCD. 2) More flexibility on D ring placement and whatever I want to do. 3) Better streamlining of the equipment I do have. 4) I need another cup of coffee and can't think of them now .

Which actually brings me to this conclusion - None of those things is something that I HAVE to do right now which is why getting a BP/W set up is down the list of my limited dive gear budget. My gear works fine for me and I like it, which is what I know you're saying loud and clear. I know we all prioritize our gear purchases (except for those who are more independently wealthy than I am)! So, I finally got my Weezle Extreme Plus, replaced my dry suit zipper, and then I'll probably get one of Dusty's $300 can-light.

Anyway.... now I'm just rambling... What was I talking about? :tomnic:

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Re: Pony bottle help

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Janna,

It sounds like what you're after from the pony bottle is to have some redundancy on dives where you're solo, or doing a survey that requires significant buddy separation.

As long as we're going to throw out recommendations for entirely new systems of gear, the other thing you might consider is to just skip the BP/W and go to a sidemount rig. It's the new BP/W afterall! :taco:

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Nwbrewer wrote:Janna,

It sounds like what you're after from the pony bottle is to have some redundancy on dives where you're solo, or doing a survey that requires significant buddy separation.

As long as we're going to throw out recommendations for entirely new systems of gear, the other thing you might consider is to just skip the BP/W and go to a sidemount rig. It's the new BP/W afterall! :taco:

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Something tells me Janna's pretty happy with her current gear setup.

Janna, a 19 is pretty darn small. You don't even really have to sling it, necessarily. Just clip it off wherever makes sense for you. I think the only parameter that really matters is that you can reach it and get to the reg and valve easilly. If you NEED it, you're really, really going to need it, so make sure you can reach it and deploy it. I know of one guy that drowned around here with a full pony bottle. He had it stowed somewhere on his back, but had apparently never actually tried to reach it.
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