I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I want a air-integrated computer for christmas, but dad says I only need a SPG and a bottem timer.What do you think?
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Georgia
NOT diving is NOT an option
NOT diving is NOT an option
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Many will agree with using bottom timer and many will agree using computers, and few will agree with console computers. I agree with computers, mostly because I'm slightly lazy. A great dependable computer choice with oled is the shearwater predator, or atleast I think so from research..jedidiver wrote:I want a air-integrated computer for christmas, but dad says I only need a SPG and a bottem timer.What do you think?
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
When you can pay for your own gear, dive whatever you want.
"Screw "annual" service,... I get them serviced when they break." - CaptnJack (paraphrased)
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
So I'm to eat popcorn,watch starwars,and let what happens happen?
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Hmm,than maybe I should refresh my ATA chart.
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
It's 10am, shouldn't you be in school?jedidiver wrote:So I'm to eat popcorn,watch starwars,and let what happens happen?
"Screw "annual" service,... I get them serviced when they break." - CaptnJack (paraphrased)
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I was refering to winter vacation.
The stormtroopers night out.
RE: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I'm of the view that spg and bottom timer is the way to go. I have a very good air integrated setup which worked well until the transmitter started to weird out. I now use the computer in gauge mode as a backup to my Liquivision Xen.
Electronics and salt water don't mix well so limiting your reliance on electronics is a conservative way to go.
Computers are great for computing deco profiles but you should be able to do that in your head when the computer fails. If you can, and it's not hard, then you don't need a computer and can save a ton of money.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
Electronics and salt water don't mix well so limiting your reliance on electronics is a conservative way to go.
Computers are great for computing deco profiles but you should be able to do that in your head when the computer fails. If you can, and it's not hard, then you don't need a computer and can save a ton of money.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
--
DAve Mercer
DAve Mercer
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Makes sence,and I almost know my ATA's,so that could work.(and I could save the cash )
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
there's kool-aid in the fridge, help yourself!
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I think as a new diver you should go true old school, an analog gauge and a cheap dive watch and an analog SPG with USN Dive tables. It's the ONLY way to learn to dive!jedidiver wrote:Makes sence,and I almost know my ATA's,so that could work.(and I could save the cash )
"Screw "annual" service,... I get them serviced when they break." - CaptnJack (paraphrased)
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right? " - Spatman
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Sounds hard,but I bet I could do it.I don't want to die meanlesly!
The stormtroopers night out.
RE: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Check out the Xen. You can actually read it underwater. It runs about $500 but is worth it. Pm me if you want a pointer to local dealers. I've not seen it in local dive shops.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
--
DAve Mercer
DAve Mercer
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Is't the Xen the thing where you tap it on the sides to control it?
The stormtroopers night out.
RE: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Yup. Nothing is open to the water and no buttons to futz with in bulky gloves with cold hands. It also logs your depth and temp for later download to a computer.
As for dive tables: they are all pretty much the same with minor variations. An easy way to compute recreational deco on the fly is to use the rule of 110 (or 130 if breathing 32%). That is, your bottom time + depth should never exceed that number. Deco should be a 30'/min ascent stopping for 1 min every 10' from 50% of your max depth then a long slide to the surface.
This approach is more conservative than dive tables, especially when shallow, but it's easy to remember if you forget your tables or your dive plan changes underwater.
Dive tables are most useful when planning repetitive dives as you need to account for residual N2.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
As for dive tables: they are all pretty much the same with minor variations. An easy way to compute recreational deco on the fly is to use the rule of 110 (or 130 if breathing 32%). That is, your bottom time + depth should never exceed that number. Deco should be a 30'/min ascent stopping for 1 min every 10' from 50% of your max depth then a long slide to the surface.
This approach is more conservative than dive tables, especially when shallow, but it's easy to remember if you forget your tables or your dive plan changes underwater.
Dive tables are most useful when planning repetitive dives as you need to account for residual N2.
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
--
DAve Mercer
DAve Mercer
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I think he sounds like a pretty okay guy so far. Is he a member of this club? If not please encourage him to join and participate too. He might want to keep an eye on what advice people give you. And welcome, by the way. I've seen your other posts but hadn't said hi yet.jedidiver wrote:I want a air-integrated computer for christmas, but dad says I only need a SPG and a bottem timer.What do you think?
Ben
Last edited by airsix on Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
"The place looked like a washing machine full of Josh's carharts. I was not into it." --Sockmonkey
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Computer or bottom timer on the wrist and a seperate spg is the "way to go" IMO. I am not a fan of consoles at all. They are big, drag in the silt, and its hard to read your depth on them while venting your BC or drysuit.
smart dad
smart dad
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
I have seen the Xen and it's cool.Nice way of controling(even more so when you have big hands)Maybe that's the way to go once I learn my tables.
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Unfortunately it gobbles up batteries. There are other computer/bottom timers units minues the OLED which are much more efficient on battery power. Your eyes are young you should be able to see themjedidiver wrote:I have seen the Xen and it's cool.Nice way of controling(even more so when you have big hands)Maybe that's the way to go once I learn my tables.
Try the seikos for instance, sold by TDL, divegearexpress, and others for ~$250 or so.
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
What kind batteries?
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Actually, it "used" to gobble batteries. The new firmware has largely solved the issue. I don't know how many dives I've gotten from my latest battery but its at least 3 x more than I did with the original F/W.CaptnJack wrote:
Unfortunately it gobbles up batteries. There are other computer/bottom timers units minues the OLED which are much more efficient on battery power. Your eyes are young you should be able to see them
Try the seikos for instance, sold by TDL, divegearexpress, and others for ~$250 or so.
--
DAve Mercer
DAve Mercer
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
Not common ones. The only place I've been able to find them has been through local dealers. They run between $7 and $10 each. That said, you get a ton of dives from one battery, especially if you set your display settings properly. Liquivision has advice on how to do this.jedidiver wrote:What kind batteries?
--
DAve Mercer
DAve Mercer
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
CaptenJack,Dewmercer,have you resently checked your information?( i am just wondering)
The stormtroopers night out.
Re: I want an air-integrated computer, what do you think?
CaptnJack wrote:Computer or bottom timer on the wrist and a seperate spg is the "way to go" IMO. I am not a fan of consoles at all. They are big, drag in the silt, and its hard to read your depth on them while venting your BC or drysuit.
smart dad
I am not a fan of bulky things.And if there so hard to read,it doesn't make sence to pay the extra money for an air-intrigated computer.
The stormtroopers night out.