1st and reg for a sling bottle...

[Jeff Pack]

Any suggestions for a lower end setup, that doesnt have to breath super well, but good enough as a backup or for deco?

I need a 1st (yoke) and reg for a 30cf sling bottle.

[CaptnJack]

Any suggestions for a lower end setup, that doesnt have to breath super well, but good enough as a backup or for deco?

I need a 1st (yoke) and reg for a 30cf sling bottle.

scubapro mk2/r190. tolerates flooding, atomic blasts and still breathes.

[Don-B]

ive used a "rental gear quality "reg for years.a Sherwood Brute.
they always work ,there not to expensive and easy to maintain.

[Jeff Pack]

what about a conshelf XIV?

[camerone]

The truth is the reg cost is pretty insignificant. Look at the cost of parts kts to rebuild it over the years.

Never buy any regulator where the manufactuers refuse to sell parts kits to end users. Those regs will, over their lifetime, cost you far more than they're worth to keep running.

There are lots of good, cheap regs (HOG comes to mind right away) that not only don't cost a fortune, but treat their customers properly by treating them like intelligent humans, AND manage to breathe very, very well.

[Nwbrewer]

what about a conshelf XIV?

While I've never used one, I had a Pro diver for a while, which internally is the same. Pretty decent breather, and they have a reputation for being bomb proof.

As far as this -

Any suggestions for a lower end setup, that doesnt have to breath super well, but good enough as a backup or for deco?

Is when you're all stressed out because you had to go to your backup the time when you want something that doesn't breathe all that well?

[Jeff Pack]

I see a Sherwood Brut for around 70$ on Ebay, some Aqua Lung Micra's roughly 150, and around the same for a Scuba Pro Mk2/G250 combo.

Size is obviously a factor, as well as quality.

Thoughts?

[mz53480]

...scubapro mk2/r190. tolerates flooding, atomic blasts and still breathes.

+1 for this

[Jeff Pack]

Picked up a Aqua Lung Micra Pro Se2 for a 1st, gotta wait to find a micra 2nd now... This way will all the the same as my other pony.

[CaptnJack]

Picked up a Aqua Lung Micra Pro Se2 for a 1st, gotta wait to find a micra 2nd now... This way will all the the same as my other pony.

why do you have 2 ponies? a left and a right?

[Jeff Pack]

19cf pony, and a 30cf sling bottle.
But a L/R Pony would be a nice...

[Jeff Pack]

speaking of that, whats a good little button pressure gauge to put on my sling bottle?

[spatman]

why do you have 2 ponies? a left and a right?

One he got for Xmas, and the other for his Sweet Sixteen. When he graduates from high school, he get a third one and will have a complete set of scuba ponies.

[airsix]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

[Joshua Smith]

speaking of that, whats a good little button pressure gauge to put on my sling bottle?

I had 3 button guages fail spectacularly on me in the space of 6 months, and i won't use them any more. All of them exploded in my dive locker when I was prepping gear, instead of on a dive, which is the absolute best way for anything to fail; but I'm done with the silly things.

[John Rawlings]

speaking of that, whats a good little button pressure gauge to put on my sling bottle?

I had 3 button guages fail spectacularly on me in the space of 6 months, and i won't use them any more. All of them exploded in my dive locker when I was prepping gear, instead of on a dive, which is the absolute best way for anything to fail; but I'm done with the silly things.

+1,000

[Joshua Smith]

speaking of that, whats a good little button pressure gauge to put on my sling bottle?

I had 3 button guages fail spectacularly on me in the space of 6 months, and i won't use them any more. All of them exploded in my dive locker when I was prepping gear, instead of on a dive, which is the absolute best way for anything to fail; but I'm done with the silly things.

+1,000

Ha! Yeah, the first one that blew up almost cost John an eye.

[Jeff Pack]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

[Paulicarp]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

[sarcasm]exactly. as long as there's pressure in it, there should be no problem with flooding it...then again if you bump the purge that could easily depressurize it- unless you keep the valve open...of course then you risk loosing all your deco gas. But that's why you rock the redundant ponies, right?[/sarcasm]

[BDub]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

And keep it pressurized, which takes a fair amount of diligence when scootering.

[Penopolypants]

One he got for Xmas, and the other for his Sweet Sixteen. When he graduates from high school, he get a third one and will have a complete set of scuba ponies.

*sigh* That's what my mom said to me too. I'm still waiting for the purple one...

[Jeff Pack]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

And keep it pressurized, which takes a fair amount of diligence when scootering.

Wouldnt you just open the valve at start of dive like your back gas, and just leave it open? Thus always under pressure.

[Joshua Smith]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

And keep it pressurized, which takes a fair amount of diligence when scootering.

Wouldnt you just open the valve at start of dive like your back gas, and just leave it open? Thus always under pressure.

It depends. Pretty easy to lose all your gas that way when scootering. The purge button gets depressed by the force of the water. You can add an inline shut off, but you'll still have a flooded first stage....

[BDub]

Jeff, take Richard's advice (I like camerone's too) and get a flood-tolerant reg. Not all are, and it's a high risk event for a slung bottle. Also, button pressure gauges perform poorly. Get a real SPG on a 6 in. hose. Check any of the many how-tos on stage rigging to see how to loop it back and tie it in a nice clean arrangement.

Ben

If at start of dive, I pressuize the system, it doesnt matter, right?

And keep it pressurized, which takes a fair amount of diligence when scootering.

Wouldnt you just open the valve at start of dive like your back gas, and just leave it open? Thus always under pressure.

It depends. Pretty easy to lose all your gas that way when scootering. The purge button gets depressed by the force of the water. You can add an inline shut off, but you'll still have a flooded first stage....

+1.

Regs have a tendency to want to free flow when scootering. I've seen it happen more than once, and it can be very tough to hear.

Even if you notice it relatively quickly, by the time you let off the trigger and shut it down, you've lost a good chunk of your 19 or 30 cuft. A big reason I leave my deco/stage bottles charged, but off (and any reg I'm not breathing off of tuned all the way down).

[Jeff Pack]

It depends. Pretty easy to lose all your gas that way when scootering. The purge button gets depressed by the force of the water. You can add an inline shut off, but you'll still have a flooded first stage....

You must have one hell of a fast scooter...