And now I have some actual stickers from a charter company for the last 4 dives in the book.
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Jim
I'm with you. I'm still fairly new to diving, and I learn from re-reading my log book. I use a cheap log that I picked up at a LDS (UnderwaterWorks in Tigard, OR) that works better for me than most I've seen. I think I only have one signature in the log (a DM that I did some deep and night diving with in Maui). I've never seen a reason to have my dive buddies sign it (plus, I usually log a day or two later using info from my computer).RoxnDox wrote:As a newbie (26 now) I am still logging them, recording info on gear as well as events I want to remember later (which might be technical info on weights/trim/etc., or something really cool I saw, or whatever). I always try to get signatures from somebody, just 'cuz.
And now I have some actual stickers from a charter company for the last 4 dives in the book.![]()
Jim
Really? I'm surprised, actually. I have never, ever been asked for my log book, or even a C card, to dive anywhere between Tacoma and Prince Rupert, BC. And I have dived with a decent number of outfits. Maybe people just see the Rebreather, shrug, and figure I'm ok, or something. All I've ever had to do is sign a waiver that asks what level I'm certified to, how long I've been diving, and that's about all.Jeff Pack wrote:Interesting this came up, I'm looking at taking a weekend diving trip in the San Juans, and they want to see everyones log book.
I was about to stop logging myself, as all I do is log location, date, dive buddy, and depth
Well, that's Silent World for you. I guess I will not qualify :(Joshua Smith wrote:Really? I'm surprised, actually. I have never, ever been asked for my log book, or even a C card, to dive anywhere between Tacoma and Prince Rupert, BC. And I have dived with a decent number of outfits. Maybe people just see the Rebreather, shrug, and figure I'm ok, or something. All I've ever had to do is sign a waiver that asks what level I'm certified to, how long I've been diving, and that's about all.Jeff Pack wrote:Interesting this came up, I'm looking at taking a weekend diving trip in the San Juans, and they want to see everyones log book.
I was about to stop logging myself, as all I do is log location, date, dive buddy, and depth
chokolad wrote:Well, that's Silent World for you. I guess I will not qualify :(Joshua Smith wrote:Really? I'm surprised, actually. I have never, ever been asked for my log book, or even a C card, to dive anywhere between Tacoma and Prince Rupert, BC. And I have dived with a decent number of outfits. Maybe people just see the Rebreather, shrug, and figure I'm ok, or something. All I've ever had to do is sign a waiver that asks what level I'm certified to, how long I've been diving, and that's about all.Jeff Pack wrote:Interesting this came up, I'm looking at taking a weekend diving trip in the San Juans, and they want to see everyones log book.
I was about to stop logging myself, as all I do is log location, date, dive buddy, and depth
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
ljjames wrote:Now now, if indeed Silent World has asked for your log book, they are doing that for your safety and the enjoyment of their customers and DM's. If you go on a charter, and are an unknown, it is perfectly reasonable for them to ask. 150 dives, 140 of which are in the tropics, none deeper than 40' after being certified out here 15 years ago, is not the same as 50 dives out here in northwest in the past 2.5 months.
If someone randomly flashes you a C-card, how do you (as say, the shop owner or manager) know jack about their actual experience, where and how recent it was.
It is perfectly understandable if you go into a shop that does not know you as a regular customer, sign up for a charter, and have them ask for a log. They are the ones responsible for you (and their other paying customers) having a good and safe time. Many times the boat captain is just that, the boat captain... when a shop or group book the boat, he's basically trusting the organizer that the folks are a) all certified (if its not a class) and b) certified to do the dives that have been scheduled. Some will ask for your highest c-card but that is rare in my experience.
If you go in there for your air/gas fills weekly and they _see_ that you are burning through 6-8 tanks every 2 weeks, run into you on the beach regularly, you know the staff by name and they know you, they probably wouldn't ask, but again, if you are Joe (or Jeff) diver off the streetDon't fault em for being thorough.
And anyway, how hard would it be to download you dive computer or sensus or whatever you have and print off say the last 20?
Locally, shop organized charters seem to be more "organized" than the actual boat operators. I actually see it as a positive that they care enough to make the dive match your experience. I try to do this on my own boat, although I don't look at people's books to do it.Joshua Smith wrote:I've done tons of deep tech dives with many different operations around here and never had to do anything except sign a waiver....
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with it. From what I know about liability as a general contractor, I'm surprised at how easy it is....although, now that I think about it, everything I've done involved an invite from someone who vouched for not only my certification level, but more importantly, my skill level. When I have seen "unknowns" show up, they did have to show cards. So I guess its not so simple.CaptnJack wrote:Locally, shop organized charters seem to be more "organized" than the actual boat operators. I actually see it as a positive that they care enough to make the dive match your experience. I try to do this on my own boat, although I don't look at people's books to do it.Joshua Smith wrote:I've done tons of deep tech dives with many different operations around here and never had to do anything except sign a waiver....
There seems to be a set of dives where they don't care at all. If you are putting the BC on the tank right-side-up you'll survive. Then a set of dives where the operators are basically hands-off go kill yourself if you want (Admiral Sampson). The in-between stuff where topside bravado doesn't match in water capacity are where they seem to be looking at logs and/or C-cards.Joshua Smith wrote:Yeah, I don't really have a problem with it. From what I know about liability as a general contractor, I'm surprised at how easy it is....although, now that I think about it, everything I've done involved an invite from someone who vouched for not only my certification level, but more importantly, my skill level. When I have seen "unknowns" show up, they did have to show cards. So I guess its not so simple.
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
+1Gdog wrote:I log my dives I think just because I like the ritual of it, and I tend to be a bit OCD with my dive gear. Everything in its place, same way every time, in the same order. It helps me not forget anything when Im loading up to go dive. The divelog has become the post dive ritual to tie it all together at the end. I dont think anyone really cares about it but me, but it pleases me!
Haha same here. I can tell you the exact date and how many times i've dove with coulterboy. The only problem is we don't do it enough. =)coulterboy wrote:+1Gdog wrote:I log my dives I think just because I like the ritual of it, and I tend to be a bit OCD with my dive gear. Everything in its place, same way every time, in the same order. It helps me not forget anything when Im loading up to go dive. The divelog has become the post dive ritual to tie it all together at the end. I dont think anyone really cares about it but me, but it pleases me!I do care about my logs. Often times, I think and reminisce and go back to old logs I have and look back at the buddies I dived with on a particular dive. Also, look at the profile I did for that dive. I don't go to bed on a dive day that I don't log my dives. Old School Baby!
That's a good one dude!johnclark wrote:Haha same here. I can tell you the exact date and how many times i've dove with coulterboy. The only problem is we don't do it enough. =)coulterboy wrote:+1Gdog wrote:I log my dives I think just because I like the ritual of it, and I tend to be a bit OCD with my dive gear. Everything in its place, same way every time, in the same order. It helps me not forget anything when Im loading up to go dive. The divelog has become the post dive ritual to tie it all together at the end. I dont think anyone really cares about it but me, but it pleases me!I do care about my logs. Often times, I think and reminisce and go back to old logs I have and look back at the buddies I dived with on a particular dive. Also, look at the profile I did for that dive. I don't go to bed on a dive day that I don't log my dives. Old School Baby!
Get a room you two..coulterboy wrote:That's a good one dude!johnclark wrote:...Haha same here. I can tell you the exact date and how many times i've dove with coulterboy. The only problem is we don't do it enough. =)