Diving with Redundancy

[Mongo]

Do you dive with redundant equipment?

If so, what equipment?

How is it configured?


Thanks for your time,

Jonathan

[WylerBear]

Yep. Second computer, AL40 pony, spare mask, back up light even on day dives, 3 cutting instruments, spool, safety sausage (in addition to the small lift bag and reel on my BC). Computer is wrist mounted, pony is slung, mask, extra light & spool in pockets. Knife on my BC hose, cutter attached to one of my wrist computers, shears in pocket.

[loanwolf]

Yep. Second computer, AL40 pony, spare mask, back up light even on day dives, 3 cutting instruments, spool, safety sausage (in addition to the small lift bag and reel on my BC). Computer is wrist mounted, pony is slung, mask, extra light & spool in pockets. Knife on my BC hose, cutter attached to one of my wrist computers, shears in pocket.

dido

[Norris]

Yep. Second computer, AL40 pony, spare mask, back up light even on day dives, 3 cutting instruments, spool, safety sausage (in addition to the small lift bag and reel on my BC). Computer is wrist mounted, pony is slung, mask, extra light & spool in pockets. Knife on my BC hose, cutter attached to one of my wrist computers, shears in pocket.

dido

did you say dil....oh wait nm

I sling a 40

[CaptnJack]

Recreationally? Not really, I bring expect a buddy to carry "my" spares and the reverse. For bigger dives I start adding redundant stuff but usually just a spare mask, shears on wreck dives (above and beyond the knife I have all the time), and sometimes an extra gauge. This is not counting doubles and sufficient (deco) gas reserves.

[LCF]

I often carry a spare mask, because I use bifocals and without them, can't see my gauges or anything small (although I've gotten quite lax about it since I bought the Liquivision, because I CAN read it without them).

Otherwise, I have redundancy (doubles) for staged deco dives, cave dives, and sometimes for dives with new or unknown divers, depending on site and proposed dive.

[Joshua Smith]

dido

I was never much of a dido fan. Her music is just to whiny for me. Kind of like a watered-down version of Natalie Merchant.

[spatman]

i keep a spare brain in my left ass cheek. it's actually way more efficient than the one in my skull, but it's a bit of a hassle to deploy, especially at work where they look at me funny when i have my butt up on the edge of my desk facing my co-workers.

[Blaiz]

i keep a spare brain in my left ass cheek. it's actually way more efficient than the one in my skull, but it's a bit of a hassle to deploy, especially at work where they look at me funny when i have my butt up on the edge of my desk facing my co-workers.

that's an interesting new place for a man to keep his spare brain...

back on topic, im glad you asked, mongo, since these questions have begun to roll through my mind, too

[mz53480]

...they look at me funny when i have my butt up on the edge of my desk facing my co-workers.

So....you're the one teaching lil' spatty all the bad habits. I knew it.....

[ktb]

i keep a spare brain in my left ass cheek.

(Oh boy . . . so many things to say here . . . but Blaiz beat me to it.)

But seriously . . . I carry a spare mask because with contacts, I'm NOT opening my eyes underwater. I also carry a back-up light on night dives. And even though my computer is air-integrated, I also have an spg. Of course, I'm rarely going deeper than 100 ft, NEVER going into overhead environments, and not diving solo.

[Sounder]

Recreationally? Not really, I bring expect a buddy to carry "my" spares and the reverse. For bigger dives I start adding redundant stuff but usually just a spare mask, shears on wreck dives (above and beyond the knife I have all the time), and sometimes an extra gauge. This is not counting doubles and sufficient (deco) gas reserves.

I often carry a spare mask, because I use bifocals and without them, can't see my gauges or anything small (although I've gotten quite lax about it since I bought the Liquivision, because I CAN read it without them).

Otherwise, I have redundancy (doubles) for staged deco dives, cave dives, and sometimes for dives with new or unknown divers, depending on site and proposed dive.

+1 for both.

I always have a spare mask, and enough gas + more. Doubles and/or an Al40 (with a variety of gas depending on what dive we're doing and who I'm diving with) if in a dive as LCF outlined. Otherwise my buddy has my spare "whatever." Next time I'm in Bonaire, I'll be slinging an Al80 for redundancy with a DSS travel-stage-kit but will likely only break it out if I elect to go solo or monkey diving.

[Blaiz]

So, err, where do you guys keep your spare mask? I finally took off the bloody snorkel because I kept grabbing it instead of the BC inflater hose, but then found I couldn't cram it in my BC pocket.... Can't imagine I'd be able to cram a mask in there?

[Penopolypants]

So, err, where do you guys keep your spare mask? I finally took off the bloody snorkel because I kept grabbing it instead of the BC inflater hose, but then found I couldn't cram it in my BC pocket.... Can't imagine I'd be able to cram a mask in there?

Dry suit pockets, or glue them on a wetsuit if you're diving wet. Most useful devices, those pockets.

[Joshua Smith]

Do you dive with redundant equipment?

If so, what equipment?

How is it configured?


Thanks for your time,

Jonathan

To answer a bit more seriously:

I always have a spare mask in my pocket. I carry 2-3 cutting devices, and I have a computer as well as a bottom timer, supplemented by tables for deco dives.

[Blaiz]

So, err, where do you guys keep your spare mask? I finally took off the bloody snorkel because I kept grabbing it instead of the BC inflater hose, but then found I couldn't cram it in my BC pocket.... Can't imagine I'd be able to cram a mask in there?

Dry suit pockets, or glue them on a wetsuit if you're diving wet. Most useful devices, those pockets.

wuts a wetsoot?

So can one glue pockets onto a tri-lam dui drysuit? or do they fall off? Dive shop to add them? I just don't know enough yet!

[LCF]

You can glue pockets on a trilam suit, and it's not all that difficult to do. The pockets are better if you have them sewn on and sealed by a professional, but glued-on pockets do work (they tend to peel off over time from the corners). Although I don't enjoy sending anyone there, you can buy very serviceable pockets at the lowest price I know from 5thD on Alki.

[lavachickie]

I'm looking for a pocket solution for my Fusion drysuit w/ the basic skin that's light and has no pockets (short of getting a new skin... someday, but not now).

[SeattleYates]

I've never carried an extra mask or more than one cutting instrument (this thread is making me think I should start!), but I generally have an extra computer in my BCD pocket, and most important (IMO) a pony - or for shallow dives at least a SpareAir. I'm a big believer in having a totally redundant air supply of my own, especially if I'm taking photos, when a buddy might drift around a corner while waiting for me to get a shot.

[loanwolf]

I'm looking for a pocket solution for my Fusion drysuit w/ the basic skin that's light and has no pockets (short of getting a new skin... someday, but not now).

Check out PDM.

http://www.piranhadivemfg.com/category/ ... -Pants-188

[Mongo]

I'm looking for a pocket solution for my Fusion drysuit w/ the basic skin that's light and has no pockets (short of getting a new skin... someday, but not now).

Check out PDM.

http://www.piranhadivemfg.com/category/ ... -Pants-188

Oooooo! Me likey the tec jump pants.

[Nwbrewer]

I'm looking for a pocket solution for my Fusion drysuit w/ the basic skin that's light and has no pockets (short of getting a new skin... someday, but not now).

X-shorts

[Mongo]

back on topic, im glad you asked, mongo, since these questions have begun to roll through my mind, too

Thanks. I have been growing my redundancy gear pile for a while now. It started with a spare mask, light, and cutting device. I now have worked my way to a 30 cu ft pony bottle and safety sausage. My most recent purchase was a wrist mounted computer with compass. It may be overkill but I would rather be safe. I believe I am almost too comfortable in the water and that in itself tells me I should plan for an epic failure.

I am also seeking input on how best to manage risk and how to best use this gear in the event of an emergency. I plan on joining the thursday TWEEK'ers one of these days to get an experienced point of view.

Thanks for your time,

Jonathan

[Norris]

I'm looking for a pocket solution for my Fusion drysuit w/ the basic skin that's light and has no pockets (short of getting a new skin... someday, but not now).

X-shorts

Yeah I was checking those out a couple weeks ago, just slip em on and go

[ArcticDiver]

Depends on the dive whether I have redundant equipment or not and just what the equipment is. For a shallow dive on a reef where maximum depth to sand is like 20 or 30 feet and I'm using an AL80 none. On the other hand on a fairly deep wreck dive where I'm going to be nosing around and maybe even penetrating I duplicate and maybe triplicate everything.

Now there is a very good argument for always doing all dives with essentially the same configuration to develop and maintain muscle and mind memory. I used to do that and may again. But, with the diving I'm doing now I just don't make that a habit.

Since masks have been mentioned I should say that it is rare indeed that I dive without a spare mask, even for shallow dives. I don't need the vision correction. But, sessions in training and actual persuaded me that the pain of diving with no mask was a painful thing that could be easily avoided by carrying a spare mask.