Niterider 14 watt hid bulb

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:24 pm

My Niterider bulb finally burned out today. Any ideas on where I can find a replacement since Niteriders diving division is no longer in business?

ArcticDiver · Post by **ArcticDiver** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:19 pm

Every time I see a post like this it reminds me one of the reasons I chose DiveRite over some of the other ephemeral brands that have come and gone over the past 12 years.

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:24 pm

ArcticDiver wrote:Every time I see a post like this it reminds me one of the reasons I chose DiveRite over some of the other ephemeral brands that have come and gone over the past 12 years.

Not much help with that post.
I've been using this light for two years and have never had a problem. Bulbs don't last forever.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:25 pm

Nobody makes their own bulbs anyway.
Do you know what brand of bulb it is?

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:27 pm

CaptnJack wrote:Nobody makes their own bulbs anyway.
Do you know what brand of bulb it is?

No idea. I have 12 allen wrenches and none of them are the right size to remove the bulb.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:30 pm

metric? 0.5mm increment? I have a full set of metric + imperial allen wrenchs I had to get at Sears to work on stuff like this. When the fitting is so tiny the only option is to have the exact size.

Lynne and Peter have a niterider which they have worked on in the past, hopefully they will chime in with info about the bulbs they have used.

ArcticDiver · Post by **ArcticDiver** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:31 pm

cardiver wrote:
ArcticDiver wrote:Every time I see a post like this it reminds me one of the reasons I chose DiveRite over some of the other ephemeral brands that have come and gone over the past 12 years.
Not much help with that post.
I've been using this light for two years and have never had a problem. Bulbs don't last forever.

Just doing a bit of reminiscing about the flak I took when I bought the kit I have and my total lack of maintenance problems now.

guitarmaker · Post by **guitarmaker** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:19 pm

Not trying to hijack Ron's post but can you get replacement HID bulbs for Diverite? They're only marketing LED's and LED conversion kits (real expensive!). IF they do - I need a 10 watt myself.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:31 pm

guitarmaker wrote:Not trying to hijack Ron's post but can you get replacement HID bulbs for Diverite? They're only marketing LED's and LED conversion kits (real expensive!). IF they do - I need a 10 watt myself.

You can from Welch Allyn. 1/2 way down explains the basics...
http://www.divegearexpress.com/lights/batteries.shtml

Dusty2 · Post by **Dusty2** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:01 pm

Thought it greves me to say it I was told that Admiralty Dive in PT has a good stock of night rider bulbs. Or I could convert to led for you if you can't find one.

olyvtx · Post by **olyvtx** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:49 am

I tried to cross reference Raptor's HID bulb for his Niterider but the bulb had no markings on it. He eventually bought one of Richard's LED lights and is very pleased with it.

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:39 am

Here are a couple of pics of the bulb.

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:35 am

Old welch allen bub.

The number written on the base is the part number. I think they're sold by ushio now.

Dashrynn · Post by **Dashrynn** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:23 pm

Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:26 pm

Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.

I did a search on Ushio's site with the part number and nothing comes up....

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:27 pm

Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.

I thought that the new ones were all 14watt and that you could run them at 10? Isn't that why DiveRight was offering 14watt upgrades for a while?

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:39 pm

Nwbrewer wrote:
Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.
I thought that the new ones were all 14watt and that you could run them at 10? Isn't that why DiveRight was offering 14watt upgrades for a while?

My Niterider is a 10/14 watt bulb. The light head has a switch on it where you can go back and forth between 10/14.
All that i have found so far are 10 watt bulbs.

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:30 pm

cardiver wrote:
Nwbrewer wrote:
Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.
I thought that the new ones were all 14watt and that you could run them at 10? Isn't that why DiveRight was offering 14watt upgrades for a while?
My Niterider is a 10/14 watt bulb. The light head has a switch on it where you can go back and forth between 10/14.
All that i have found so far are 10 watt bulbs.

Ron if nobody looks it up before I get to it I'll see if i can find the PN at home.

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:34 pm

I'd appreciate it, Brewer.

Dashrynn · Post by **Dashrynn** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:10 pm

Nwbrewer wrote:
Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.
I thought that the new ones were all 14watt and that you could run them at 10? Isn't that why DiveRight was offering 14watt upgrades for a while?

If they are using the same ballast as the one I used to upgrade my halcyon, then it uses "10 watt" bulbs but drive them to use 14 watts. Thus this decreases the useful life of the bulb. In which they probably told you the useful life was calculated for the 14 watt setting.

The ballast i used also has a 10/14 watt setting by correctly wiring or using the correct switch (I went simple). But using a diode (volt/amp appropriate) you can use a two way switch (anode to cathode.just calculate for voltage drop).

Dashrynn · Post by **Dashrynn** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:15 pm

cardiver wrote:
Nwbrewer wrote:
Dashrynn wrote:Ushio sales them, not sure if they are 14watt though. I know a 10 watt will work but will decrease life of bulb.
I thought that the new ones were all 14watt and that you could run them at 10? Isn't that why DiveRight was offering 14watt upgrades for a while?
My Niterider is a 10/14 watt bulb. The light head has a switch on it where you can go back and forth between 10/14.
All that i have found so far are 10 watt bulbs.

Found the possible sheet on your ballast. Your useful bulb life is 350 hours vs 750 for 10 watt.

http://ushio.com/files/specs/Solarc-NGX.pdf

http://www.ushio.com/files/specs/Solarc ... P003%20%22

cardiver · Post by **cardiver** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:28 pm

So I find the bulb and the only place that sells it has a minimum order of 3 @ 79.00 a piece.....

Dashrynn · Post by **Dashrynn** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:45 pm

cardiver wrote:So do I just order the 6 degree assembly?

I wished I could say yes, but not knowing anything exactly about nite rider I couldn't confirm. Though the bulb you have shown looks amazingly similar to my bulbs and they appear the same, there is no surefire way of knowing without more definite specs.

If I was in the area I would just bring a halcyon 10 watt proteus 3 bulb over (different bulb same base looks like) to see if it fit. I'm 99.9% sure that is the bulb though. Ushio has a minimum $ order which is 100$ I believe.

My bulb looks like this

Dashrynn · Post by **Dashrynn** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:54 pm

cardiver wrote:So I find the bulb and the only place that sells it has a minimum order of 3 @ 79.00 a piece.....

call ushio directly.

H20doctor · Post by **H20doctor** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:10 pm

Convert it to led... Mwaaaahh Haa Haaa ..

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