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B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:50 am
by Diver_Dave
How to fix a BC...

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:26 am
by Nwbrewer
I'm not sure I understand. No inflation? or did you move it to a bottom bulkhead like a SM BC?

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:07 pm
by Diver_Dave
Removed totally....Never used it ever....

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:10 pm
by Tom Nic
Diver_Dave wrote:Removed totally....Never used it ever....
Why bother with the BC at all if you never use the inflation? Seems like a backplate and straps would be easier and less stuff to sink.

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:11 pm
by thefeve
So do you only use your suit for buoyancy control?

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:14 pm
by Norris
thefeve wrote:So do you only use your suit for buoyancy control?
I can attest to the fact that DiverDave only uses his drysuit for boyancy control. He's nutty like that!

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:14 pm
by Tom Nic
thefeve wrote:So do you only use your suit for buoyancy control?
That would be an affirmative.

(answering for Diver Dave based on my observations, with no comment on the wisdom or lack of wisdom of said arrangement. By reading this post you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the posters, NWDC, your drinking buddies, your Mom, and everyone who has ever given you diving advice from any dive accidents you may or may not have whether resulting from said advice or one's own general inattention to detail and personal IQ.)

:calvin: :joshsmith: :tomnic:

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:16 pm
by thefeve
Impressive, errr something... I can't say I'd ever want to disconnect the ability to use the bladder, but hey, to each his own I guess!

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:32 pm
by Norris
thefeve wrote:Impressive, errr something... I can't say I'd ever want to disconnect the ability to use the bladder, but hey, to each his own I guess!
YUP, just write that off as "not for me".

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:37 pm
by CaptnJack
Might as well strip all that bladder crap off and use the plastic plate with a piece of continuous webbing...

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:04 pm
by Mortuus
Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:06 pm
by Tom Nic
Mortuus wrote:Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?
[sarcasm]Redundancy is so old fashioned...[/sarcasm]

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:08 pm
by CaptnJack
Mortuus wrote:Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?
Swim up, tread water.

Besides if Dave's suit fails during most of the year he'd probably walk on the <40F water to get out faster.

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:13 pm
by Tom Nic
CaptnJack wrote:
Mortuus wrote:Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?
Swim up, tread water.

Besides if Dave's suit fails during most of the year he'd probably walk on the <40F water to get out faster.
Or walk on the bottom to the shore. :)

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:44 pm
by defied
Mortuus wrote:Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?
Nope. Redundancy is not for everyone.

D

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:10 pm
by Norris
defied wrote:
Mortuus wrote:Okay, I'll bite... Doesn't matter if you dont use it as your primary method of inflation. Redundancy, anyone?
Nope. Redundancy is not for everyone.

D
:goodpost:

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:06 pm
by Mortuus
Well clearly.... Reduncancy is, however, for people who want to be taken seriously as a diver. I wish people would stop pussyfooting around this in an attempt to appear PC though. Show some backbone. Yes, to each is own is alright until some new diver sees it and follows suit.

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:14 pm
by defied
Mortuus wrote:Well clearly.... Reduncancy is, however, for people who want to be taken seriously as a diver.
Not everyone wants to be taken seriously in a sport they are doing for fun.
Mortuus wrote: I wish people would stop pussyfooting around this in an attempt to appear PC though. Show some backbone. Yes, to each is own is alright until some new diver sees it and follows suit.
Perhaps we haven't met.

There's no PC here. The ocean is there for anyone who wants to be in it. There are so many different styles of diving, and everyone dives the way they want. If a new diver likes the way someone dives, they will follow it. It's really not our business or problem.

I think you might want to pull the "no" before the Koolaid man out of your sigline. >0]

Keep in mind, DIR diving isn't that old compared to a lot of other styles. It's not the end all, be all, diving format.

D

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:22 pm
by CaptnJack
Mortuus wrote:Well clearly.... Reduncancy is, however, for people who want to be taken seriously as a diver. I wish people would stop pussyfooting around this in an attempt to appear PC though. Show some backbone. Yes, to each is own is alright until some new diver sees it and follows suit.
No you're wrong. Lots and LOTs of people dive without redundant buoyancy. Probably 80% of the dives in the world are done in a wetsuit, jacket BC with a single tank. You don't see many of those divers pinned to the bottom - actually none of them.

On those straps, at most Dave has about 8lbs of gas (single 130). If his suit fails, anyone and everyone wearing fins can swim up 8lbs. If he doesn't want your pussyfoot BC, he's not obligated to use one.

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:34 pm
by Norris
Mortuus wrote:Well clearly.... Reduncancy is, however, for people who want to be taken seriously as a diver. I wish people would stop pussyfooting around this in an attempt to appear PC though. Show some backbone. Yes, to each is own is alright until some new diver sees it and follows suit.
Well the fishing is good today, as we certainly got a bite.

It's pretty obvious to many of us that Dave posted this as a joke, and yes he doesnt use a BCD. The reason many are not showing this "backbone" you mention is that we recognized his post for what it was. It was a poke and being contrary to some agencies beliefs. Well maybe ALL agencies for that matter.
Dave is a great diver and during some times of the year has more hours underwater in a week, then many of us have in a year.
So no need to look out for the new divers Mortuus, I dont assume anyone would look at this post as a DIY for fixing a BC,,,,


:rofl:

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:36 pm
by CaptnJack
Norris wrote:I dont assume anyone would look at this post as a DIY for fixing a BC,,,,
:rofl:
The old inflator was actually the scary bit! :p

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:43 pm
by defied
CaptnJack wrote:
Norris wrote:I dont assume anyone would look at this post as a DIY for fixing a BC,,,,
:rofl:
The old inflator was actually the scary bit! :p
^^^ That laid me out when I saw this post. I zoomed in on the pic frantically searching for the inflator, and then realized I'd been had. 0]

D

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:54 pm
by Norris
CaptnJack wrote:
Norris wrote:I dont assume anyone would look at this post as a DIY for fixing a BC,,,,
:rofl:
The old inflator was actually the scary bit! :p
Good call

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:57 pm
by Tom Nic
CaptnJack wrote:
Mortuus wrote:Well clearly.... Reduncancy is, however, for people who want to be taken seriously as a diver. I wish people would stop pussyfooting around this in an attempt to appear PC though. Show some backbone. Yes, to each is own is alright until some new diver sees it and follows suit.
No you're wrong. Lots and LOTs of people dive without redundant buoyancy. Probably 80% of the dives in the world are done in a wetsuit, jacket BC with a single tank. You don't see many of those divers pinned to the bottom - actually none of them.

On those straps, at most Dave has about 8lbs of gas (single 130). If his suit fails, anyone and everyone wearing fins can swim up 8lbs. If he doesn't want your pussyfoot BC, he's not obligated to use one.
And in addition, 90% of Dave's dives are working dives, not recreational ones. Last video I saw of him he was standing on the bottom of a dock in tennis shoes with a big arse sledge pounding away on zinc in about 30fsw. Typically he dives a harness that will allow him to attach a tank to it, an inflator hose and one second stage off his first stage (no secondary). And so, no... I'm not headed for Dave if I go OOA, and no, I'm not going to configure my gear like he does (or do alot of other things that he does, for that matter!), but it works for him in his context, so good on him. :)

(OH, and that is why I always go to Sitka with a buddy!!!)

Re: B.C Fix

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:17 pm
by kdupreez
how much for that pink umbrella :smt064