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Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:17 pm
by dphershman
I'm not sure when they put in the signs so I may be the last person that didn't know this, but its probably worth passing on that there are nearly a dozen or more 'no parking' signs around the small parking lot at Three Tree. It must have cost a several thousand dollars to lay out that spread, so I imagine they're pretty serious. :angry:

There are now only about 5 legal parking spaces. (fewer if somebody parks askew or shows up in one of those oversized trucks or vans). Don't even think of trying to park along the hedges.

This will definitely put a crimp on anyone planning a club dive there, especially on a weekend.

Dan

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:41 pm
by Penopolypants
I was there this weekend and wondered how new they were. It definitely puts a damper on groups.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:32 pm
by Linedog
Great, it's in my sights for Sunday. Might have to hit it early.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:23 am
by fmerkel
This has been going on for awhile. The guy behind the hedge would seem to have started it. Well, probably large groups of divers+fisherman and poor manners probably started it and he finished it off. Cops were called, people got ticketed or not depending on the mood of the cop.
(I have more info if people care for it).

With the growth in Seattle pretty much any recreational endeavor of about any sort is going to end up being about parking. It behooves users to carpool and watch their manners, maybe limit group sizes (clubs, classes) at certain sites to minimize the impact on neighborhood sites like this.

Washington Scuba Alliance has been working on trying to improve the Seacrest Coves. Used to be the big problem was DNR wanted nothing to do with putting any kind of structure underwater. But the key people that were resistant have left and it seems more possible now. So some improvements to Cove 3 with some changes in parking there and and access to the water along with some structure (piles of rock ala Saltwater) have been promoted. I've been at several meetings with Parks and City councilman about this, The sticking point now is parking. They don't want it more attractive there. It's already too attractive to a mixed group of users (commuters, divers, skaters, runners, restaurant, etc) and parking is already a major hassle for them.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:05 am
by Gdog
We dove there last thursday, and there were white lines and white x's painted, including along the hedge. Where did the no parking signs end up being placed?

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:10 am
by Penopolypants
Working from memory, but where the red lines are, essentially to the right and left of the entry road, including the curve.
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Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:18 am
by Gdog
Wow. It looked like to me by the white lines, that they were allowing a couple spots along the hedge. Guess not. SUX!

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:24 am
by pogiguy05
Around the end of August 2015 I emailed the city of Burien and I got a response from someone named Brian Roberts. He said they were working on a parking plan and i just emailed him again to get any updates. I also asked him if they had any plans that would show the legal areas to park and I would share them here so there is no confusion. As soon as anyone gets back to me I will pass it on.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:15 pm
by pogiguy05
I have a PDF file that he sent me that shows where parking is allowed. I tried to attach it, but seeing that it is PDF file I am not tech savvy enough to attach as a picture.

Basically the only legal parking is angle parking along the hedges from the gate at the hedges to the end of the hedges. Of course do not block the garage door driveway.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:34 pm
by Scubie Doo
Here you go.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:49 pm
by pogiguy05
Scubie Doo wrote:Here you go.

Your my hero ;-)

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:54 pm
by Gdog
Wow. That sux. No reason at all that a couple cars couldnt park along hedge on inside of corner. Oh well, we have to live with it. Somehow.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:04 pm
by pogiguy05
Gdog wrote:Wow. That sux. No reason at all that a couple cars couldnt park along hedge on inside of corner. Oh well, we have to live with it. Somehow.
Well it is good to know so that we can be sure we are covered. I think the thing the makes the locals angry are the Fishermen, but we get the backlash of that during the salmon season. I dont see a NO MR HEATER and Canopy zone though. ;-)

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:18 pm
by Gdog
pogiguy05 wrote:
Gdog wrote:Wow. That sux. No reason at all that a couple cars couldnt park along hedge on inside of corner. Oh well, we have to live with it. Somehow.
Well it is good to know so that we can be sure we are covered. I think the thing the makes the locals angry are the Fishermen, but we get the backlash of that during the salmon season. I dont see a NO MR HEATER and Canopy zone though. ;-)
True that! MR HEATER!!!! :partydance: :supz:

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:07 pm
by YellowEye
:angry:

Thanks for pulling this info!

I wonder, where is the closest legal alternative parking for drop off and park offsite...

hard to tell from that map

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:11 pm
by enchantmentdivi
pogiguy05 wrote:I have a PDF file that he sent me that shows where parking is allowed. I tried to attach it, but seeing that it is PDF file I am not tech savvy enough to attach as a picture.

Basically the only legal parking is angle parking along the hedges from the gate at the hedges to the end of the hedges. Of course do not block the garage door driveway.
If one was ambitious, could they park along Maplewild? I see red dots with no explanation--are those no parking signs as well? (I've never paid attention to see if there were any on that road or not.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:01 pm
by pogiguy05
My suggestion would be to tread carefully and for me i would only park in the area allowed. Dont want to spread any new issues and get tickets or towed.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:49 pm
by enchantmentdivi
pogiguy05 wrote:My suggestion would be to tread carefully and for me i would only park in the area allowed. Dont want to spread any new issues and get tickets or towed.


I understand, and I will. From the map though, I cannot tell if parking on Maplewild is allowed or not.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:31 pm
by pogiguy05
enchantmentdivi wrote:
pogiguy05 wrote:My suggestion would be to tread carefully and for me i would only park in the area allowed. Dont want to spread any new issues and get tickets or towed.


I understand, and I will. From the map though, I cannot tell if parking on Maplewild is allowed or not.
I did the google map thing and I see what looks to be no parking signs but they are blurred out for some reason. I also used google maps to kind of do a walk thru of those back streets and I really dont see any side parking without causing an issue with passage of vehicles.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:17 pm
by Gdog
On google earth it looks as though there may be some parking on Maplewild, just west of the turn in to TTN. Will have to check it out in person tomorrow.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:51 pm
by pogiguy05
Gdog wrote:On google earth it looks as though there may be some parking on Maplewild, just west of the turn in to TTN. Will have to check it out in person tomorrow.
I seen some blurred signs that look like no parking and yes will have to look closely.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:47 am
by CaptnJack
The problem is actually only partly due to the cranky neighbors. The pump station there requires 24/7 access and the roads are insanely narrow for a fire truck. Those 2 factors plus required sight lines at intersections limit the parking as much as the cranky neighbor factor. They just didn't really get serious about the pump station, fire truck and sight lines until the neighbors complained about their driveways being blocked too.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:42 pm
by Gdog
CaptnJack wrote:The problem is actually only partly due to the cranky neighbors. The pump station there requires 24/7 access and the roads are insanely narrow for a fire truck. Those 2 factors plus required sight lines at intersections limit the parking as much as the cranky neighbor factor. They just didn't really get serious about the pump station, fire truck and sight lines until the neighbors complained about their driveways being blocked too.
Good point.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:14 am
by jsaenz
A quick note that not all of those no parking signs are legally binding. Check the back of them for a "city of burien" sticker. If they are not there it is not an official sign and you are allowed to park there. We had some police officers come out and verify that.

Re: Parking at Three Tree

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:47 am
by Tom Nic
jsaenz wrote:A quick note that not all of those no parking signs are legally binding. Check the back of them for a "city of burien" sticker. If they are not there it is not an official sign and you are allowed to park there. We had some police officers come out and verify that.
Interesting.... Can you give us an idea of which ones?