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best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by cephalogoddess » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:42 pm

Hi friends,
I've recently graduated college and before going to graduate school for marine biology I want to get into underwater photography. Of course I'm on a budget. I want to mainly shoot macro but would like to be able to shoot quality video as well.

Being on a tight budget, the 2 cameras I'm trying to decide between are the Olympus TG6 and the Canon G7x iii. Of course, the G7x is about twice the price but it does have full manual capabilities whereas the TG6 does not. However, the TG6 looks super easy to use and great macro. But I do want to be able to advance my photography skills which I know would be more possible with the G7x.

I will also be buying at least one strobe and a video light (of course if I go with the TG6 I could afford 2 strobes...). But I don't want to buy a cheaper camera now and then decide in a year that I need to upgrade again. And unfortunately right now I really can't afford anything more expensive than the G7x :(

I'll mainly be taking photos in the PNW but I am going to Indonesia in March. So I also want a camera that I'll be able to figure out how to use in only a couple of months.

What do you recommend? Does anyone have experience with one or both of these cameras and if so what do you like and what don't you like? Can the G7x iii shoot decent macro or would I need to purchase an additional macro lens?

Thank you so much for any advice!
-Taryn

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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by Sharkb8 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:05 pm

cephalogoddess wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:42 pm
Hi friends,
I've recently graduated college and before going to graduate school for marine biology I want to get into underwater photography. Of course I'm on a budget. I want to mainly shoot macro but would like to be able to shoot quality video as well.

Being on a tight budget, the 2 cameras I'm trying to decide between are the Olympus TG6 and the Canon G7x iii. Of course, the G7x is about twice the price but it does have full manual capabilities whereas the TG6 does not. However, the TG6 looks super easy to use and great macro. But I do want to be able to advance my photography skills which I know would be more possible with the G7x.

I will also be buying at least one strobe and a video light (of course if I go with the TG6 I could afford 2 strobes...). But I don't want to buy a cheaper camera now and then decide in a year that I need to upgrade again. And unfortunately right now I really can't afford anything more expensive than the G7x :(

I'll mainly be taking photos in the PNW but I am going to Indonesia in March. So I also want a camera that I'll be able to figure out how to use in only a couple of months.

What do you recommend? Does anyone have experience with one or both of these cameras and if so what do you like and what don't you like? Can the G7x iii shoot decent macro or would I need to purchase an additional macro lens?

Thank you so much for any advice!
-Taryn
The TG6 is an incredible value. I’d say get one and use the money saved on more light. I have had one since August and love it. The lack of manual mode is occasionally annoying but you can cheat the camera pretty easily. Check out Val’s movie she posted yesterday from Ambon for an example of its video capabilities (and her awesome skills :luv: ). The backscatter guys love it and there are a bunch of other websites with guides on achieving the best camera settings.

https://www.backscatter.com/reviews/pos ... act-Camera

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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by cephalogoddess » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:10 pm

Wow, that macro video looks incredible. Yes, this is the Taryn in Bellingham who used to work at Gone Diving! Hi! (I also used to work at Washington Divers, but that only lasted a couple months for obvious reasons if you're familiar with that shop)

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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by Greg Jensen » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:01 pm

Another vote for the tg-6. Great little camera, and its inherent waterproofness will save you a lot of grief if your housing ever leaks.

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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by derekcs » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:16 pm

The TG-6 offers enough manual controls to get by.

Having good strobes and photo editing software are also very important for developing skills. These days, I fuss with my strobes much more than ISO, aperture, and shutter speed. The TG-6's small size and close focusing capabilities have allowed me to light some photos in ways I find very very difficult with a full SLR rig.

Here's a sampling of photos I've taken with the TG-6:
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I haven't done much wide angle with it, to be fair.
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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by Greg Jensen » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:16 pm

A few TG-6
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wide angle shots, using a single small strobe

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Post by ScubaJess » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:42 am

REALLY nice snaps Greg!!! :)
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Post by ScubaJess » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:43 am

Derek I love your snaps too!!! :) great colors!
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Post by cephalogoddess » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:30 pm

Ill have to read more about the settings on the TG6. Beautiful photos Greg & Derek. I just ordered the TG6 and housing! Super excited. For strobes I got a great deal on a pair of Inon Z240s. I'm also going to get a Kraken Hydra 5000 video light.

I need to get a double handle aluminum tray. Any recommendations? Are the $60 aluminum trays as "good" as the $130 ikelite dual handle tray?

I'll be diving at Edmonds next weekend to play with the new camera. Likely wont have my lights by then but that's okay. I cant wait!

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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by Jan K » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:35 pm

Another vote for the Olympus TG.
Here are some with TG-5. One external strobe & wide angle wet lens.
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Post by Tom Nic » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:24 pm

Beginner camera TG-6 hands down. And you can take it to the stratosphere. Throw in a tray and at least one strobe and you've got a really good rig.
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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by cephalogoddess » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:23 pm

Tom Nic wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:24 pm
Beginner camera TG-6 hands down. And you can take it to the stratosphere. Throw in a tray and at least one strobe and you've got a really good rig.
Perfect, my new TG6 will be delivered tomorrow :) I also have a tray, video light, and strobes on the way. Can't wait to try everything out!
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Another vote for the Olympus TG.
Here are some with TG-5. One external strobe & wide angle wet lens.
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Jan, your photo compositions are stunning as always. I love your dive log- it's a work of art! What application do you use to make your photo collages? The only lens I have seen in my price range right now is the Backscatter M52 Wide Angle Air lens. I will need to buy a wide lens before my Indonesia trip for sure but may hold off right now and learn how everything else works together first.

Thanks again for the advice everyone!
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Re: best beginner camera? (looking @ G7x iii vs TG6)

Post by Jan K » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:29 pm

Jan, your photo compositions are stunning as always. I love your dive log- it's a work of art! What application do you use to make your photo collages? The only lens I have seen in my price range right now is the Backscatter M52 Wide Angle Air lens. I will need to buy a wide lens before my Indonesia trip for sure but may hold off right now and learn how everything else works together first.
Thank you. For the log I use old Photoshop, working in layers.
Good luck in your underwater photography, looking forward to watch your progress.

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Post by Greg Jensen » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:05 pm

I'm amazed by the versatility of the TG 6 when it has the wet wide angle lens (Backscatter) attached. These uncropped shots were taken with it on, same dives as the WA I posted above. I originally thought I'd be taking it off and on as I changed from wide angle to macro, but that is only necessary if I'm shooting something really tiny.
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