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Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:14 am
by 60south
Kinda slow on the board lately. Thought I'd stir up the silt a bit...

The question isn't really hypothetical because, inevitably, someone here will find a weapon while diving. This year alone we've found quite a lot of unspent 30-06 ammunition from the WWI era, and a CO2 air pistol (badly corroded).

Let's assume that you find a handgun while diving.

Common sense says you shouldn't play with the thing and probably leave it alone. At the same time, however, it might have been used in a crime and should be returned to the police. If you leave it, it may be difficult to find again. If you take it, you should at least make sure it's unloaded before toting it anywhere. I suppose the answer may depend on its condition and your own comfort level with firearms.

:popcorn:

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:58 am
by RoxnDox
Well, your last couple of sentences are certainly valid... If it was me (which it wouldn't be since I don't dive now <sad face>), I would make note of the location as closely as possible, take some photos if you have a camera, and then try to safe it. If it's old and corroded and things aren't moving, take it up - carefully, not just tossing it into a junk bag. ;) If it's new enough to move the action, pull the clip and eject any chambered round, or empty the cylinder. Keep the rounds removed. Then surface and turn it over to the local PD.

Jim

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:50 pm
by H20doctor
I watch a guy on YouTube all the time he's a diver finds all kinds of stuff in the rivers and waterways.. every time he finds a gun he immediately brings it to the surface calls the police because of the weapon was used in a crime or a murder they can run the serial number... I think if you found something that was old civil war era something like that I probably wouldn't bother but if you found a current handgun say like in the last 20 years then you're supposed to call the police and then they pick it up... if the gun is clean and no issues you can usually get it back from the police department

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:49 pm
by PeninsulaDiver
Cool topic.
A year ago while diving Point Hudson, I came across a hinge action shortened barrel 20 gauge shotgun with a modified stock. I made a short video to document the location (guessing it was thrown off the NW Maritime Center dock), made sure it was safe and headed to the beach with it. Before bringing it up the beach, I made sure no one was around in case they got excited and called 911 “Scuba Diver with gun!” Anyway, I contacted the PD to come get it. They ran the numbers and found no registered owner. I forget the model but it was manufactured ~1950. Although it looks a bit rusty, with a little cleanup, I suspect it would fire fine. As far as I know, it remains in their evidence room today.

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:11 pm
by CaptnJack
Found a cheap semi-auto pistol in a case off Duwamish Head about 10 years ago. Called 911, told them it was a non-emergency. Patrol officer came by about 25mins later and took it. Guns in the water were part of a crime, you don't want to be holding onto evidence which may be a key element to solving a crime. There is no reason to leave it unless you're that uncomfortable bringing it up.

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:28 pm
by 60south
And there it is.

Good posts.

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:35 pm
by E_Mo
If you can mark the location (say with a SMB or other buoy) that would be best to help the police identify the location. The best thing is to keep it submerged in water. When you expose it to air, oxidization/rust really takes hold. You could bring it up to the shore area, keeping it submerged as long as possible. If they send out CSI, they would most likely collect it a bucket/vessel that can keep it submerged as well.

If they can get it functioning again, they will test fire it to get a casing and fired bullet for NIBIN purposes to compare against other evidence from crimes.

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:30 pm
by 60south
Today it happened.

Found a semi-auto handgun off of one of the docks in Port Townsend. It's been down there a while, no magazine, trigger and hammer rusted away.

It's basically a block of rust so we didn't report it.

gun.jpg

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:45 am
by ScubaJess
Wow! That's crazy!!!

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:16 am
by 60south
ScubaJess wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:45 amWow! That's crazy!!!
Crazier still... I think we've identified it as an FN Browning M1903, from circa 1905-1920. It's probably been down there a loooong time.

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:24 am
by oldsalt
Sixty, Upon reading the wikipedia link, it may be the gun that started WWI.
-Curt

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:01 pm
by RoxnDox
The grip plate logo certainly IDs it as an FN Browning... Great find!

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:15 am
by 60south
Following up on the pistol... It cleaned up surprisingly well. Some of the numbers are still readable.
gun1.jpg
gun2.jpg

Re: Hypothetical Question (sorta): What do you do if you find a firearm while diving?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:56 am
by ScubaJess
I bet it has a very fascinating story... crazy find