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T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:02 pm
by 60south
I've been looking at options for modifying my BlackTip DPV to include a T-handle, instead of the normal right-handed handle that comes stock. DiveX doesn't off a kit for this (why not??) but there are people who offer them after-market, as well as 3D printable parts.

Have you put a T-handle on a BlackTip? If so, how'd it go? Advice?

glenn

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:30 am
by Boarderguy
No experience with the T-handle but you can modify the firmware. This can give you cruise control and a few other options to make piloting it easier. CC would allow you to just switch hands and not need to hold the thumb trigger.

Firmware:
https://github.com/bwoodill/BT_VESC

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:26 am
by 60south
Boarderguy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:30 am No experience with the T-handle but you can modify the firmware. This can give you cruise control and a few other options to make piloting it easier. CC would allow you to just switch hands and not need to hold the thumb trigger.

Firmware:
https://github.com/bwoodill/BT_VESC
Interesting. I would change the default speed (make it 2 instead of 3), and generally lower the speeds at all levels (giving a greater selection of low speeds), but none of that is critical. I just need a left-hand grip.

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:04 am
by Boarderguy
60south wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:26 am
Boarderguy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:30 am No experience with the T-handle but you can modify the firmware. This can give you cruise control and a few other options to make piloting it easier. CC would allow you to just switch hands and not need to hold the thumb trigger.

Firmware:
https://github.com/bwoodill/BT_VESC
Interesting. I would change the default speed (make it 2 instead of 3), and generally lower the speeds at all levels (giving a greater selection of low speeds), but none of that is critical. I just need a left-hand grip.
I'll look on the other unnamed board and see what I can see.

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:57 am
by ktuli
I know a local person (on Bainbridge Island) who has 3D printed T handles for the Blacktips and I've used them both single and T grip and definitely will say I prefer having the option with the T grip. If I remember correctly, it is a non-destructive modification so if you end up not liking it, you can always switch it back. The one thing is that getting the actual grips (the rubberized part) to stay on was a minor challenge, but he may have come up with better solutions since I last talked to him.

I'll try to get ahold of him (friend of a friend, so I'll have to play a little bit of relay) and see if he is still making them. Let me know if you are interested in pursuing further and I'll try to get you connected up.

Will

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:04 pm
by 60south
ktuli wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:57 am I'll try to get ahold of him (friend of a friend, so I'll have to play a little bit of relay) and see if he is still making them. Let me know if you are interested in pursuing further and I'll try to get you connected up.

Will
Yes please!

If it's the same 3D design as at Thingiverse or a custom 3D printable design that he can send me, I can have the local library print it up. But it sounds like it might be better than that.

glenn

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:05 am
by Nwbrewer
The best place to find information regarding Dive X scooter retrofits is the Dive Xtras X-Scooter Group on facebook.
Boarderguy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:04 am
60south wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:26 am
Boarderguy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:30 am No experience with the T-handle but you can modify the firmware. This can give you cruise control and a few other options to make piloting it easier. CC would allow you to just switch hands and not need to hold the thumb trigger.

Firmware:
https://github.com/bwoodill/BT_VESC
Interesting. I would change the default speed (make it 2 instead of 3), and generally lower the speeds at all levels (giving a greater selection of low speeds), but none of that is critical. I just need a left-hand grip.
I'll look on the other unnamed board and see what I can see.

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:37 am
by Boarderguy
Nwbrewer wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:05 am The best place to find information regarding Dive X scooter retrofits is the Dive Xtras X-Scooter Group on facebook.
Thanks. I hadn't thought to look to bookface for that.

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:46 am
by Norris
With the programable settings I took my 8 speeds and configured down to 5, starting on level 2. Additionally removed the safety start delay. There are some easy quality of life modes you can alter.

my 2 psi
I have read where the software cruise control has created issues, so if you really need cruise control there are some bungee options out there which being more analog are easier deal with. I have been on long runs with mine, and really never found a need for it, but again, just my 2 psi

Re: T-Handle for BlackTip DPV?

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:01 pm
by Nwbrewer
There is a reason why scooters have a Deadman switch. If you've ever had an unintentional start you know it's not fun. I made a hard turn and a piece of floating line I could not see until I was on top of it got trapped on the trigger, smashing my fingers downso I could not let go. The line was tied to the bottom, so I basically circled until i could free myself....

I'm a firm believer in no cruise control, and lock the trigger when not actively using the scooter.

Norris wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:46 am With the programable settings I took my 8 speeds and configured down to 5, starting on level 2. Additionally removed the safety start delay. There are some easy quality of life modes you can alter.

my 2 psi
I have read where the software cruise control has created issues, so if you really need cruise control there are some bungee options out there which being more analog are easier deal with. I have been on long runs with mine, and really never found a need for it, but again, just my 2 psi