WTB: HP100 & HP120
WTB: HP100 & HP120
WTB: HP100s and H120.
Tired of being the first guy to thumb the dive.... :(
Tired of being the first guy to thumb the dive.... :(
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Rebreather!!!
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Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Kitty Liter Carrying Death machines.mz53480 wrote:Rebreather!!!
Or get my GEM and outlast all your bubble blowing friends...
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
I remember when you used to breath air!
Pop tarts and gravy,
It's what's for breakfast.
It's what's for breakfast.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
mz53480 wrote:Rebreather!!!
Jeff Pack wrote:Kitty Liter Carrying Death machines.
Sig worthy comedy right there!
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
BTW, theres a 120 for sale on CL. But if you get my GEM, your 80 becomes a 240+.
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Thanks Jeff,
Saw that one and called on it already. unfortunately its the 3100+10 Faber, 48lbs dry and -16 on the buoyancy. Ouch!
Saw that one and called on it already. unfortunately its the 3100+10 Faber, 48lbs dry and -16 on the buoyancy. Ouch!
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Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Started with an al80. Then the hp100. That wasn't enough. Then bought a hp130. Still not enough. Then bought a dive rite optima rebreather. Wanted better. Now I own a Megalodon rebreather.
So save yourself a lot of money. Skip all the intermediate stuff and get a Meg!
So save yourself a lot of money. Skip all the intermediate stuff and get a Meg!
McGlencoe wrote:mz53480 wrote:Rebreather!!!Jeff Pack wrote:Kitty Liter Carrying Death machines.
Sig worthy comedy right there!
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Actually, the Faber 3180+ tanks are my favorite for cold water diving. The 100 and 120 are both -7 lbs empty. Compare that to an AL80 at +4 lbs. That means you can drop 11 lbs of weights just by swapping tanks.
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Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Tim, ignore all these rebreather fanatics, they're just off-gassing. You'll know when you're ready for one.
A drysuit and a 120 or 130 would seem to be a higher priority right now.
Just my .02
A drysuit and a 120 or 130 would seem to be a higher priority right now.
Just my .02
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
At ~$30 for a sorb cartridge it better be 240cf!Jeff Pack wrote:BTW, theres a 120 for sale on CL. But if you get my GEM, your 80 becomes a 240+.
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
try user packable scrubber.
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
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Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Off gassing or not, I'm trying to save this poor soul some hard earned money. Just remember the old Fram oil filter commericals... "... you can pay me now or you can pay me (a lot more) later!"
60south wrote:Tim, ignore all these rebreather fanatics, they're just off-gassing. You'll know when you're ready for one.
A drysuit and a 120 or 130 would seem to be a higher priority right now.
Just my .02
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Really? You're encouraging a new diver to drop thousands of dollars instead of a couple hundred on a tank that he can always use or resell?jeffgerritsen wrote:Off gassing or not, I'm trying to save this poor soul some hard earned money. Just remember the old Fram oil filter commericals... "... you can pay me now or you can pay me (a lot more) later!"
Sounds like you're asking him to pay a lot more right now.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
The OP said he didn't want to be the one to call a dive on low air, even a 120 is no guarantee of achieving that goal.
Going doubles, most likely to achieve that, but at the expense of massive weight.
Going doubles, most likely to achieve that, but at the expense of massive weight.
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
getting comfortable uses alot less gas... and its free.
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
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Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
I have know knowledge of how many dives and OP's skill level.
In hind sight if I had to do it all over again, I wish some experienced RB diver would have taken me aside and explained the pro's and con's, long term costs, and tec options. Knowing what I know now, I would have rented as much gear as possible until I got buoyancy under control, about dive 60, and then transitioned directly to a rebreather. It would have saved me a lot of money in the long run.
However a potential RB diver needs a certain personality makeup. They need to be a hands on person, one who keeps their gear in a high level of maintenance, and not afraid of technology.
Rebreathers for me are a solution to many issues faced in underwater photography, tec, wreck, and cold water diving. It's amazing what I can hear when I'm not blowing bubbles, and marine life are not afraid of me. I've had several encounters with rock fish who just sit next to me with that look of "what is it?"
The value of a rebreather really comes into play when a diver travels down the tec road of mixed gas diving. EX, if you do a weekend of trimix dives once a month, in about three years, you will have paid for a used Meg just in OC trimix savings alone - four years if you factor in required training.
So, I'm not asking the OP to pay a lot now, but to consider his future dving plans and choose the most affordable path available, taking into account considerations / options in the present and near future.
In hind sight if I had to do it all over again, I wish some experienced RB diver would have taken me aside and explained the pro's and con's, long term costs, and tec options. Knowing what I know now, I would have rented as much gear as possible until I got buoyancy under control, about dive 60, and then transitioned directly to a rebreather. It would have saved me a lot of money in the long run.
However a potential RB diver needs a certain personality makeup. They need to be a hands on person, one who keeps their gear in a high level of maintenance, and not afraid of technology.
Rebreathers for me are a solution to many issues faced in underwater photography, tec, wreck, and cold water diving. It's amazing what I can hear when I'm not blowing bubbles, and marine life are not afraid of me. I've had several encounters with rock fish who just sit next to me with that look of "what is it?"
The value of a rebreather really comes into play when a diver travels down the tec road of mixed gas diving. EX, if you do a weekend of trimix dives once a month, in about three years, you will have paid for a used Meg just in OC trimix savings alone - four years if you factor in required training.
So, I'm not asking the OP to pay a lot now, but to consider his future dving plans and choose the most affordable path available, taking into account considerations / options in the present and near future.
60south wrote:Really? You're encouraging a new diver to drop thousands of dollars instead of a couple hundred on a tank that he can always use or resell?jeffgerritsen wrote:Off gassing or not, I'm trying to save this poor soul some hard earned money. Just remember the old Fram oil filter commericals... "... you can pay me now or you can pay me (a lot more) later!"
Sounds like you're asking him to pay a lot more right now.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Rebreathers might be something down the road to do, I love the idea of a bubble-less dive and I am definitely a gearhead and like to tinker with things, but I figure I need to start old school and get my experience from the bottom up. I'm even diving a wetsuit until this fall/winter just so I can say that I know what its like.
And buying tanks I may have to sell down the road? At the prices I'm seeing well cared for used tanks going for, I'm not too concerned. That's the reason for the post, looking to buy used, definitely not buying anything new.... though a set of doubled up 50s could be pretty cool and haven't seen any of those on the used market yet... Though maybe I need to find a pair of the old Scubapro slim 60s or 72s... that could be fun. Another subject for a different thread I think LoL!
And buying tanks I may have to sell down the road? At the prices I'm seeing well cared for used tanks going for, I'm not too concerned. That's the reason for the post, looking to buy used, definitely not buying anything new.... though a set of doubled up 50s could be pretty cool and haven't seen any of those on the used market yet... Though maybe I need to find a pair of the old Scubapro slim 60s or 72s... that could be fun. Another subject for a different thread I think LoL!
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Although I may eventually consider a rebreather down the road, for now I would recommend learning to be relaxed in the water and lowering your SAC/RMV. My favorite tanks for local dives are Faber FX117s. They weigh less than an HP119 or HP120. These days, I can stay down for 60 min or more, and am usually not the one to turn the dive, even when my buddy is on a rebreather. My RMV is generally between 0.6 and 0.7 cuf/min - nothing special.
There is a lot of technique that one can develop to be more relaxed and have fun under water before getting into the fancy breathing apparatus. Good horizontal trim, neutral buoyancy, anti-silting kicks, helicopter turns and back kicks all make for more fun and comfortable dives.
There is a lot of technique that one can develop to be more relaxed and have fun under water before getting into the fancy breathing apparatus. Good horizontal trim, neutral buoyancy, anti-silting kicks, helicopter turns and back kicks all make for more fun and comfortable dives.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
I was surprised to find my breathing rate got substantially lower when I switched to a CCR rebreather.
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
New sign line right there baby!Jeff Pack wrote:I was surprised to find my breathing rate got substantially lower when I switched to a CCR rebreather.
Sounder wrote:Under normal circumstances, I would never tell another man how to shave his balls... but this device should not be kept secret.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
that's 2 sig worthy's in one thread, I'm on a roll!
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- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
- I got a good squirt in my mouth
- I would imagine that there would be a large amount of involuntary gagging
- I don't know about you but I'm not into swallowing it
CCR discussion on Caustic Cocktails.
Re: WTB: HP100 & HP120
Found a couple HP 120s and a HP100 (thx pgtdvr), so I'm good to go.
Now need to off load my LP80s as they are not needed anymore.
2440 PSI + rated, so a total of 2640.
Fresh hydro and VIP in June
Full of air, ready to dive.
$300.00 for the pair.
Now need to off load my LP80s as they are not needed anymore.
2440 PSI + rated, so a total of 2640.
Fresh hydro and VIP in June
Full of air, ready to dive.
$300.00 for the pair.