Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
I did my first dive at Three Tree North in about 3 or 4 months last week. Dropped in poopstorm viz and a ripping current. After pushing our way down to the Cabin Cruiser we discovered that there was lots of downrigger cable broken off and attached to the boat (as well as more on the tire piles). I attempted to pull some of it off and quickly realized there was too much of it for me to mess with. At the same time I got some wrapped loosely around my arm, and was able to quickly free myself.
I need to carry wire cutters.
I know this is a big "duh" for many of you, but after a first hand encounter with the downrigger cable I realized I am short on a critical piece of safety equipment. My dive knife would have done me precious little good if I had gotten too tangled.
This was not a "big", "deep", wreck dive, just a simple dive at one of our local mud holes. But that cable could be dangerous.
Thought I'd pass this along...
I need to carry wire cutters.
I know this is a big "duh" for many of you, but after a first hand encounter with the downrigger cable I realized I am short on a critical piece of safety equipment. My dive knife would have done me precious little good if I had gotten too tangled.
This was not a "big", "deep", wreck dive, just a simple dive at one of our local mud holes. But that cable could be dangerous.
Thought I'd pass this along...
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Tom, approximately what gauge was that wire? Would EMT shears have worked, or would you have needed something like diagonal cutters?
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Ya got me there... Being the non-mechanical type I can't tell you what gauge the wire was. Pretty flexible and pretty standard downrigger cable from what I've seen.
Perhaps I'm being unrealistic? Not sure, but I will certainly be looking for something I can carry with me in the future.
Perhaps I'm being unrealistic? Not sure, but I will certainly be looking for something I can carry with me in the future.
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"Warning: No dive masters are going to be there, Just a bunch of old fat guys taking pictures of fish." -Bassman
Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
I'll get a length of it from my brother and try out some cutting implements on it. I think I remember reading somewhere that EMT shears work for cable, at least once....Tom Nic wrote:Ya got me there... Being the non-mechanical type I can't tell you what gauge the wire was. Pretty flexible and pretty standard downrigger cable from what I've seen.
Perhaps I'm being unrealistic? Not sure, but I will certainly be looking for something I can carry with me in the future.
Does anyone make stainless/titanium dyke cutters?
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Answered my own question http://www.amazon.com/Aven-10355-ER-Sta ... B003E48D0I
Now, how do you rig a bolt snap to that?
Now, how do you rig a bolt snap to that?
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Paramedics shears should do it.
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Standard EMT shears work great on the steel leader used with downrigger balls. I've had occasion to find out ...
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Anyone want some? They're $6.97 + tax for black handles through Amazon, and since I'm a Prime member, there's no shipping charge.
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Heck, yeah! Since I managed to lose my last pair up in BC and haven't replaced it yet! I'll take two, please.....one for the drysuit pocket and the other for the good ol' Save-a-Dive-Kit!scottsax wrote:Anyone want some? They're $6.97 + tax for black handles through Amazon, and since I'm a Prime member, there's no shipping charge.
Before I leap, though, is the hinge pin stainless? Nothing sucks more than the pin rusting away....
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I have no idea... These are them:John Rawlings wrote:Heck, yeah! Since I managed to lose my last pair up in BC and haven't replaced it yet! I'll take two, please.....one for the drysuit pocket and the other for the good ol' Save-a-Dive-Kit!scottsax wrote:Anyone want some? They're $6.97 + tax for black handles through Amazon, and since I'm a Prime member, there's no shipping charge.
Before I leap, though, is the hinge pin stainless? Nothing sucks more than the pin rusting away....
- John
http://www.amazon.com/Aven-10355-ER-Sta ... B003E48D0I
I'll see if I can find some additional information.
Edit: no immediate info on the rivet, except for: "Extra large rivet with a rated strength of 88kg assures rugged durability." I've sent an email to ADC asking for further information, explaining that they're for scuba diving.
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Hmmmm....the link is not of EMT shears....
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Whoops...John Rawlings wrote:Hmmmm....the link is not of EMT shears....
http://www.amazon.com/ADC-Medicut-Shear ... 335&sr=1-1
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Works for me!
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
REALLY appreciate all the replies. I'm also an Amazon Prime member so I'll order it myself.
I suppose if I'd taken one of Bob's classes or a tech class or some such someone would have talked to me about this - or perhaps they did and my worn out memory muscle simply forgot.
In any case, appreciate the affirmation and feedback!
I suppose if I'd taken one of Bob's classes or a tech class or some such someone would have talked to me about this - or perhaps they did and my worn out memory muscle simply forgot.
In any case, appreciate the affirmation and feedback!
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"Anyone who thinks this place is over moderated is bat-crazy anarchist." -Ben, Airsix
"Warning: No dive masters are going to be there, Just a bunch of old fat guys taking pictures of fish." -Bassman
"Anyone who thinks this place is over moderated is bat-crazy anarchist." -Ben, Airsix
"Warning: No dive masters are going to be there, Just a bunch of old fat guys taking pictures of fish." -Bassman
Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
And I'll bet there's a good story there!Grateful Diver wrote:Standard EMT shears work great on the steel leader used with downrigger balls. I've had occasion to find out ...
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
Could you order me a couple pairs and I'll pick em up at the club dive? does that work?scottsax wrote:Anyone want some? They're $6.97 + tax for black handles through Amazon, and since I'm a Prime member, there's no shipping charge.
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
2 for John
2 for Blaiz
2 for me
Anyone else?
2 for Blaiz
2 for me
Anyone else?
I'm going to look like a moose on rollerskates. -airsix
... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
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... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
I got tired of the EMT shears failing on me - I've tried a bunch of different kinds and they all seem to fail the same way - after only a few months of diving. The pin is generally made from a material that tends to corrode, but it is the blades that break - mine have all snapped right by the pin. I generally get the shears at no cost, and while they have worked well for me on stainless fishing leader, downrigger cable, monofilament, fluorocarbon, braid and handfuls of gillnet among other things, I am weary of pulling them out to use them only to find that one of the blades has snapped off. I spent ~$30 on a different type of cutters recently (bulkier but much heavier duty) and I'm hopeful that they'll provide better service.
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Link?whatevah wrote:I got tired of the EMT shears failing on me - I've tried a bunch of different kinds and they all seem to fail the same way - after only a few months of diving. The pin is generally made from a material that tends to corrode, but it is the blades that break - mine have all snapped right by the pin. I generally get the shears at no cost, and while they have worked well for me on stainless fishing leader, downrigger cable, monofilament, fluorocarbon, braid and handfuls of gillnet among other things, I am weary of pulling them out to use them only to find that one of the blades has snapped off. I spent ~$30 on a different type of cutters recently (bulkier but much heavier duty) and I'm hopeful that they'll provide better service.
"Screw "annual" service,... I get them serviced when they break." - CaptnJack (paraphrased)
"you do realize you're supposed to mix the
with water and drink it, not snort the powder directly from the packet, right?
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
I wasn't recommending them (yet) as I haven't had them long enough to find out if they hold up very well. But they seem quite sturdy, and a month in they're really not showing any signs of corrosion. Anyway - here is a link...
http://www.omsdive.com/cuttool.html
They're the "Emergency Cutting Shear" at the bottom of the page.
http://www.omsdive.com/cuttool.html
They're the "Emergency Cutting Shear" at the bottom of the page.
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Re: Just Realized I'm Missing Something...
The funky people would like 2 pairs if they can get here by the club dive? (oregondiver and funky diver)scottsax wrote:2 for John
2 for Blaiz
2 for me
Anyone else?
THanks!
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+2 for the funky divers.oregondiver wrote:The funky people would like 2 pairs if they can get here by the club dive? (oregondiver and funky diver)scottsax wrote:2 for John
2 for Blaiz
2 for me
Anyone else?
THanks!
I'm going to go ahead and place the order.
I'm going to look like a moose on rollerskates. -airsix
... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
Want to know where I'm performing? Check out my Facebook fan page!
... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
Want to know where I'm performing? Check out my Facebook fan page!
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Order's placed. After tax, they're $7.50 per shear, $15 for a pair.
I'm going to look like a moose on rollerskates. -airsix
... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
Want to know where I'm performing? Check out my Facebook fan page!
... my Mom caught me fenestrating once. -lavachickie
And I get so tired of fainting and peeing all over myself when the hammer falls on an empty chamber! -Nailer
Want to know where I'm performing? Check out my Facebook fan page!